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Trophaeum | Cameron Brunner | Owes $2700 for brokerage

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by meathead1234, Nov 30, 2011.

  1. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Quick background:

    Trophaeum submitted a website brokerage request to my company on the 28th September for a site he wanted to sell. It was smaller than I'd usually take on, but as it was Troph I decided to do it anyway.

    For privacy reasons, I will not disclose the URL sold or the buyer's details.

    We agreed a % the same day and a minimum price of $15,000:

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    [28/09/2011 16:16:15] Thomas Smale: I'd imagine somewhere around the $15k mark based on the above issues
    [28/09/2011 16:16:39] cameronbrunner: ok, make it so
    [28/09/2011 16:17:26] Thomas Smale: our commission is 15%
    [28/09/2011 16:17:35] Thomas Smale: would usually get a contract signed, but no need as its you [due to his position on the forum at the time]
    [28/09/2011 16:17:54] cameronbrunner: works for me on all of the above
    From this point onwards, it took 5 weeks to complete a sale at $18,000 (above his initial asking price):

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    [09/11/2011 03:12:40] cameronbrunner: all approved and the funds just hit my account yesterday afternoon, how do i send your part?
    [09/11/2011 03:12:55] Thomas Smale: awesome
    [09/11/2011 03:13:11] Thomas Smale: I'll invoice you for the fee
    [09/11/2011 03:13:16] Thomas Smale: I presume you can do wire?
    [09/11/2011 03:13:31] cameronbrunner: not tried before but sure why not, its just a walk to the bank :)
    [09/11/2011 03:15:22] Thomas Smale: ok cool
    [09/11/2011 03:15:25] Thomas Smale: let me put something together
    [09/11/2011 03:15:44] Thomas Smale: total escrow was 18000 right?
    [09/11/2011 03:15:51] cameronbrunner: yup
    Since then, not a word. I have tried contacting him via Skype, email and IRC a number of times.

    At this stage, I am not accusing Cameron of being a scammer, we'd just like our invoice to be paid. The service was completed above his initial expectations and he was paid promptly by my client via Escrow.

    I recognise that myself and Cameron are in different timezones (I'm in the UK, he's in Aus) but we never had communication issues before and we both work long/weird hours anyway.

    Seeing as I've had no contact through any other medium, I thought a thread here might prompt a response. This is a last resort before we consider taking the matter further.

    I've personally sold over $1m in websites for BHW members in 2011 alone, so there are a lot of people who can vouch for me on that front. The proof I have provided above covers everything I believe to be important to the matter at hand.

    If anyone has regular contact with Troph, I would be grateful if you could get in touch with him on my behalf. Thanks!
     
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  2. cool0403

    cool0403 BANNED BANNED

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    So your saying that a once super administrator that was recently demoted to just simply donor owes you money?
    I am pretty sure harro would know more about his whereabouts than anyone else.
     
  3. Winchester

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    That is indeed what he is saying. Cameron seemed like a good guy, he and I were starting a JV which he had me do extensive background work before he dropped off the face of the earth.

    Maybe things have come up for him and that's fine; the hope is that he isn't a scammer and he comes back and pays Tom the money he is owed for the service.

    Hopefully this is all just a misunderstanding.
     
  4. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Correct (although it should be noted that monies owed has nothing to do with his change of status on the forum).

    He's definitely been around as he's been chatting on IRC (from what I've been told) when I've not been on. He's had more than enough time to drop me a quick email/Skype with an update on the payment.
     
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  5. nam6641

    nam6641 Supreme Member

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    Wow, $1MM in sales in this year alone is very impressive. Nice job. I'll have to contact you about a site of mine.
     
  6. BigBuddy

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    Thomas, have you tried contacting him in other forum irc? Recently he use to be online there...
     
  7. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Yep, that's the IRC I was referring to.

    He's also been online on Skype (I never had communication issues before) so it's not like he wouldn't have got my messages (especially in the last 3 weeks).

    As I said, I hope it's all a misunderstanding, but the lack of contact hasn't been very assuring.
     
  8. Scripteen

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    Ouch. What's up bhw members?
     
  9. Kennen

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    People are so full of greed today, they'll sell anything for a little piece of money. Greed has taken the whole universe.
     
  10. mobileabdulla

    mobileabdulla Registered Member

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    I'm so glad you got rid of those guys and demoted Harro, all Harro did was steal members Ideas and repackage them as his own. Also when guys got popular here, and shared great information. He got jealous and looked for reasons to ban them. He used to beg for donations and abuse his mod powers.
    I'm so glad to see that people have cleaned house here.
     
  11. MiLiTARYiV

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    Hey meathead did you ever get this sorted out yet? I;m sure a mod will handle and sort this out soon.Seams trop is not banned yet
     
  12. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    No, it hasn't been sorted. Apparently Troph has been moving house, although I'm not sure why that would delay sending a wire payment by over a month.
     
  13. Pampa114

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    Tom, since you disclosed this: "[28/09/2011 16:16:15] Thomas Smale: I'd imagine somewhere around the $15k mark based on the above issues"
    I'd love to know what the issues were. Can you skype me about that?
    BTW, haven't heard from him either, and haven't seen him on Skype even though he'd have no reason to hide from me.
     
  14. marrrko

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    I don't want to say anything, but usually this situations are because

    - Person doesn't want to pay you
    - Person is dead :D
     
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    This is a bad situation, but Thomas's professionalism always amazes me.

    So many times I see people posting nasty comments or getting worked up to the point of anger over issues like this(which is understandable in a lot of these types of issues).

    I hope others that are facing the same sort of issue see this post and use it as a model for how to execute true customer service.

    In closing, I hope you guys are able to get things squared away. Trophaeum has always seemed like a solid guy to me, so I hope he sees this and does what needs to be done before things get out of hand.
     
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    Hope the new year brings issues to a positive close :) Cheers to all parties!
     
  17. MiLiTARYiV

    MiLiTARYiV Senior Member

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    i think he should be banned. Surprised he is not yet. Scamming other BHW members is not cool. We are family here, at least I hope so.

    OP I truly hope things go good for you and I'm sorry for your troubles but I do agree there is no reason not to send a wire timely..

    he probably still logs in but we cant see his log in date
     
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    kudos to OP for keeping cool
    bet in future there'll be no more of these type of deals without the contract as you alluded to in chat with Mr. Brunner.What a shame to see people do this type of thing especially as you got him 3k above the estimated price
    walks off shaking head
     
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  19. darkface

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    Is this still not sorted? Its been a while
     
  20. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Nope, he's still AWOL.

    He has been locked out of his BHW account since the new ownership, but that's a different issue. He's aware of this thread and I've been told numerous times he's been around on IRC or wherever. No effort to contact me at all.