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Tronox's journey to Quick & Easy Cash Money $$$ on da Interwebz

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  1. tronox

    tronox Power Member

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    Hello, before starting my journey thread I wanted to confirm that it's name is indeed "Tronox's journey to Quick & Easy Cash Money $$$ on da Interwebz". Why a name like this ? To grab attention, I guess. And to match the style of this forum.

    This is not the first time I seek success in my online ventures. I've had another journey thread lying somewhere around BHW (Youtube + PPD). It was somewhat successful. I reached 72$+ a day but these earnings didn't last so long. Looks like that money vanished into thin air as I've unsuccessfully invested half of that capital into low quality SEO services here in BHW. I've bought brand new PC with the remaining long greens (just to make you some of the newcomers jealous).

    Now to tell the whole story. I want to state that making greenbacks online wasn't as easy as it looks. Actually, that journey thread was the only time I've made anything decent online in about 1.5 years since I've started.

    Now, to recap what I have done in that time and how successful or unsuccessful I was. You decide.


    Youtube + music promotion channel
    (February 20, 2013 - April 21, 2013)


    I thought that it would be a nice place to start if I want to earn something (inside the interwebs) . About 5-10 minutes work a day, some editing, checking for nice, new songs. All the right to the song owners, of course. I was getting a few subs a day - nothing fancy. Just before I was able to monetize it (wanted to join a network for partnership) someone made a copyright claim. Shit happens. Moving on.


    Youtube + full games uploading channel
    (May 9, 2013 - the day I joined bhw)


    I was uploading full games of one famous online MMORPG game. Nothing fancy, again. This time I was taking the games from Twitch.Tv and monetizing them with adsense. I was linking to streamers pages on Twitch.tv and giving them credit of course (in the video descriptions). While making some money by doing this I managed to get +-500 subs in about one month. Everyone wins, I guess. The streamer gets some viewers coming from youtube. I get some adsense benjamins. Except, someone had another channel like that and we have both had a few same full games in our channels (I guess you know what the game is by now). The guy made a copyright claim on my black ass. Once again (how Dafuq? Does he own these games ? I don't know, I guess not. He is just a random guy like me. Uploading games N shit.). Made around 20$ in a month. Not bad huh ?. Once again - back to googling "how to make money online" :)


    Blackhatworld and the amazing weekly payments from PPD

    (the day I joined bhw - 9th September 2013)


    Of course, biggest success I've had was with PPD (strange right?). Day by day, inventing new ways of selling bullcrap to U.S people (ages 13-28) I stumbled upon hack niches and sweet french leads of 17$. Hack niches weren't the best thing I tried with PPD. Made a nice sum of about 200$ + first moolah I made in them interwebz.


    The glorious days of movie niche!
    (9th September 2013 - 25th October 2013)

    This is the highpoint of my "online career". I was making about 25$-30$ on a daily basis (Fuckin yeah!). I know that for most of you this is a moderate sum money since there is a lot of guys here who Kinda made it in IM. I mean, not 1k a day, not 1$ a day. I'm realist by nature and I believe that only about 5% actually make something bigger than 50 singles a day. Even on my best days I wasn't able to jump above the 95%.


    The right time to start reinvesting?
    (25th October 2013 - 11th March 2014)


    I made a really clever decision reinvesting cash money into seo services of marketplace. Lost about 500$ and never really ranked anything. After that, I bought SEO tools and started reading about ranking websites myself. If I would rank for 200k+ keywords of biggest PPD niches I would "Bank hard". That never happened, lol. Never managed to even rank simplest keywords of 100-1000 searches a month. Made whole 2$ out of 800-900$ investment and 4 months+ work. Time to move on.


    My shot at Themeforest.net

    (11th March 2014 - 15 October 2014)

    I thought that it would be great to stop trying to sell shit and learn a skill since other than my IM experience I had nothing. Started learning HTML & CSS. I'm gonna try to keep it short. At first, rejects were due to lack of quality. First 4 or 5 months my template quality wasn't the best and I could understand the rejections. When quality was finally good enough it turned out that my template wasn't original enough. This was at 10 rejections. I decided to make a new template from scratch and make it more original. I can't recall how many times I redone it completely to make it original, but I again gave up on template after total of 20 hard rejections. Most of rejects due to lack of originality. I know that Themeforest's standards are high, but it seems like a waste of time when you try to make template look good just for few people all the time.


    Back in blackhatworld.com
    (15 October 2014 - present day)

    What I have now - one dead end website (1 article that I tried to rank for 20k PPD keyword ). It is stuck at 300+ rank. If I can call it stuck ;) . It never reached top 300, actually. 2 tests using only social signals that are dripfed daily. Not in top 300, yet ?. One parasitic type website that is hosted on wordpress.com. Trying to rank it only with web 2.0s that are shit-spun (articles scraped with FCS networker's scraper. About 50%+ uniqueness) and 1 adsense micro niche website that I will try to rank using only unique content that I write myself which will be hosted on Super web 2.0's . I will also be learning PHP + mysql. These will be added next to HTML & CSS in the list of "how not to rip people off". I am currently a full time student so don't expect hundreds of updates every single day. I will update and report how my tests subjects are doing + how many tutorials of new boston I have watched. If I'll be perseverant enough , I will create something that doesn't slim ordinary american's wallet for no reason.

    For those of you who like to see daily earnings with every update - I'm afraid that this thread ain't gonna be about stackin' em hard. I'm not saying ,of course , that success is not what I'm trying to achieve, but you got to understand that reality of IM is different and so far I've been nothing more than a perfect example of rather mediocre IM'er. Success is just around the corner right ? That corner is so FUCKING HUGE... Back to grinding!

     
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  2. SeanAustin

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    For some reason, I thoroughly enjoyed your style of writing in this post. Good luck with your journey, I have an odd feeling you will succeed.
     
  3. glazeshine

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    You will succeed because you are creative. So good luck.
     
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    Good luck bro! :)

    Lets see what you've got
     
  5. tronox

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    It's a beautiful day and I keep smiling!

    And if you are a newb that has just started to read my journey thread or came to BHW - if you expect easy money then get a real job, because it is more profitable in the short run.
    All of this stuff that I wrote is real. No easy greenbacks on them interwebz. Learn a real skill like content writing, programming or prostitution. Don't buy E-books on how to make money online and also be aware of marketplace. It's a dark and dangerous place. Be safe and please come again!

    These assholes just blindly started buying any stupid thing that looked appealing because they thought that money was endless - 'Randy Marsh'
     
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    Good luck! You got a real battle going on with Da InterWebz! Same here!

    Worst thing are the bad investments...lol!
     
  7. tronox

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    I didn't thought that It will be that bad. I mean you got to risk stuff in order to scale. Thats how the game works, Nomsayin ?
     
  8. tronox

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    \\\\\|4 December 2014|/////

    SEO

    How my projects/tests are going ? well, the "dead-end" is kinda, you know, dead, lol. Social tests are tanking strong. And the parasite is nowhere to be seen. I guess, I'm not gonna update these on daily basis. If any one of them will begin to show any success I will then be so kind and report how that project is doing. I forgot to mention that adsense microniche site (I ordered it, through marketplace) hasn't been delivered yet so I can't really report rankings on that one.

    PHP

    I went from 25-45 new bostons tutorial on php today + started doing a little project already. I know I'm still newb in PHP but in order to learn it in advanced mode I have to start tackling real problems and not just copy-paste stuff from tut videos. I already love PHP since it is a programming language and not design + it is not related to rejectionforest so no no's this time. I may be able to also monetize it in the future so here goes another +.

    -----Thought of the day-----

    Ewhore your way to $100, its super easy.After you made that $100, buy a hooker.You will then have made money online, and you will get laid! It's a WIN WIN! - reoman


    Just posting a video not gonna do it every day I guess


     
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  9. apexxxx

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    I like your style, man. I wish you the best of luck and look forward to reading your updates! Keep moving.
     
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    I'm feeling ya. I've had some success and some downturns, kinda mediocre, but I'm sure we'll make it some day. :) Keep workin' & good luck!
     
  11. blackhatsaiyan

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    quick and easy eh, did i accidently take a wrong turn and end up on the warrior forum?
     
  12. Reeshua

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    How bout making a blog? I like your matter-of-fact writing style. Succeed by telling people how you failed.
     
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    Well, I could make a blog, but I kinda failed at SEO so no one would reach that blog. No one would read how I failed at SEO because I failed at SEO. Seems like this forum is the only place where someone sees that the struggle is real. I thought that after many rejects themforest would let me slip my template in there somehow. But they just do not give a fuck. Ironically, this nest of internet marketers who sell shit to people and often discuss strategies on how to rip people off is the only place where someone actually gives a fuck about what you do/did/how you failed/ etc. Themeforest lacks this human like connection. I once got rejection message which said that my template is almost good to go and I need to fix just few things and after would follow a message that everything is wrong and needs fixing. Fucks given ? None. And that is why I LOVE BHW! In a way, this forum is more honest than other "Legit" websites. When people accept that something is "Legit", there is no room for questioning. Even if it becomes bad over time - people will still say "That's just how it is just accept it" and shit like that. Nomsayin ?
     
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    PHP/MysQl

    Well, few hours here and there. Spent that time learning how to create a login function using mysql. Decided to give myself a break on friday. Oh yeah, check out movie "Fury" FUCKING AWESOME! Watching it 2nd time in a row.

    Fiverr​

    Back to roots.Decided to throw 5 bucks at this bitch. Let's see how it converts using fiverr and not youtube. I got this fantastic network just for movie niche. Superb convertions. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I have created a movie website along with all the SEO stuffs + used YT for some 'Muricans. Result = about 5-10 dollar cents per visitor. Have I earned something out of this niche ? Made about 136$ - proxies and account costs = negative profit so far.


    Thought of the day
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    I love when my little sister skypes me so I can help her with her math.
    -Riley Reid(Yeah,I read her twitter, cmon, judge me.)
     
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    PHP/MysQl

    Making my way through mysQl. Even more stuff added to the project. I realized that the template I "loaned" from rejectionforest does not have a register.html page so I had to make one. Few hours thrown there aaaaand I have a lot better understanding how login function and SESSION's work :)

    Fiverr

    Ordered 4 gigs y-day to get some traffic for my CPA and hack niches + clickbank affiliate products. I know that I struggle in several fronts now, but it is a lot interesting than doing just one thing + I don't like all my eggs in a single basket. Gonna try to see whether that trafffic will convert or if these guys just run some script on your link which brings 100 - 1000 visits on your link and no sales (that is possible, right?).

    SEO

    It is strange, but I have seen a jump in 1 keyword today - 18k searches and it is now in 136th position. It has been over 1 month since I bought services in marketplace + I really thought that this one will be a dead-end website since I failed at doing proper anchor diversity at the beginning. My adsense niche site has arrived so today I will have to get my hands on tier 1 article writing and manual submissions.


    Thought of the day
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    Conspiracy theory has gotten a bad name. It became synonymous with a moronic thought. Like, if you're into conspiracy theories and you think that bankers need to be stopped you also think that moon is made out of cheese and you think that there are shapeshifters and lizard people.
    -Bill Burr


     
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    SEO

    Today I created tier 2 and 3 projects for my "dead" website and diluted anchors even more. I will see whether it will gain some rankings or plummet down into Google abyss. Made some super/ultra/special web 2.0 properties for adsense microniche website. Realized that my nonsense account was inactive or something like due to new policy they made. I now need to wait whole 3 weeks for some pin to get to my mail and only then will I be able to see ads on my website. I also ordered few articles from m-place. Why the goose I can't write these myself...lol.

    And one more thing - I wanted to get some opinions whether I could write articles for money or not. I obviously can't judge it myself but if you are my journey reader and have some knowledge about tis language I would like to receive some criticism. Do I do a lot of grammatical mistakes, punctuation errors, etc. I know that writing for SEO is different than in journey thread but do I stand a chance to even compete on 0.5$/100 words level ?

    Fiverr

    1 order - 382 visits to my link. Kinda nice when you think of it. The problem is - my network or should I say 'Shavework'. Out of 382 clicks on my bit.ly link I got no visits.Don't mistake that with impressions.There are visits/UV/impressions/clicks on that networks dashboard.So there is still hope that this fiverr thing might give me cash money. Strange isn't it ? Other orders were made with fake accounts so no traffic from em.



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    I don't have any change!! I don't have any chaaaaaange!!!
    -Randy Marsh


     
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    I thanked for this thread. It looks interesting. Making a YT channel was once my opinion too. Maybe I will try it one day.

    Good Luck mate. :)
     
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    SEO

    Made some changes on microniche site. The articles were KW stuffed to the max so had to work on that. No excerpts on homepage. Started my off-site campaign. I decided to not continue on tests with just social signals. Realized that social signals help in ranking but you can't really rank with then alone or you need really big amounts of them. Dead end site disappeared from serps today but I guess it will come back even stronger so that is good, right ? Added 200 more words and lowered KW density on main article. Worked in indexing my parasite's backlinks.

    Fiverr

    Done with buying traffic on it. Just doesn't convert. Managed to get some of my moolah back by leaving crappy reviews for crappy service. I created my own gig (surprise, huh?). I won't get much orders at first but that's okay. Some extra cash on the side.



    Thought of the day
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    Mikey mouse greets almost sixteen million visitors year. Yes, but that's a drop in a bucket compared to the 200 million people who are killed by the bubonic plague. Well, the plague was spread by rats, Mikey mouse's cousins. But here is one question wikipedia cant answer - what kind of god would allow that to happen ?
    -WikiBear
     
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    SEO

    Dead end site came to life but not stronger,lol. It is also bad that it has 37% anchor density for main keyword. I've read somewhere that it should be about 10% - 20%. I need to make that lower by adding new b-links. My niche site is nowhere to be seen in serps. I don't know what I'm doing wrong... KW density is about 2 % and there are no backlinks yet just few social signals. I know that it should easily rank in top 300 without backlinks even if its new domain. Add few high PR blinks and tada! You got yourself top positions. I need work on on-page SEO till I get to that secret sauce. It should be just these simple ON-page seo tutorials but so far none of them have helped me. Picked lots of longtails and 5 other sub-niches for my dead-end site. All of them should be easy to rank. If I'll do on-page right this time then I should rank without much backlinks.


    Fiverr

    I suspended my gig because it turns out that 10% increase in gigs price made it fivefitter and it has been slowly losing popularity ever since. I'd better wait till new company emerges lol.






     
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