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Toolyo 2.0, Massive Blackhat app, would you be interested in this?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by PresFox, May 2, 2011.

  1. PresFox

    PresFox Registered Member

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    Hello,

    A while ago i came upon toolyo, a adware program that let you redirect clickbank urls with whatever user installed your application.

    Interested by this, but not willing to pay $1499 for such a limited app i set out to create my own, better version of the application.

    Basically i created this:

    A adware app that can redirect any url users type in to the browser. Updated live from an admin panel, without any visible parts to the user. This means that as soon as someone installs the exe you are provided with you control their browser, and they are fine with it (since there is a EULA they have to accept).

    This means that when for example you setup a mirror page of google, and user type in www.google.com, they are redirected to your mirror page. The app also allows wildcards, so for example you would be able to redirect <anything>.google.com to your pages.

    You could let everyone with the app installed that visits your competitors landing page go to yours instead, or even easier, hijack his affiliate url links when users head over there.

    Every 12 hours the app calls home to fetch the newest urls that should be matched and replaced.

    Next to this, the app is also able to modify the search engine results pages of google, bing and yahoo, giving you the opportunity to have your sites up on top for any keyword you choose, looking like a completely natural search engine result.

    It also saves the keywords a user is looking for and posts them at the admin panel

    All of this can constantly be changed and updated from the admin panel.

    Now comes the question, since this is not a advertising post, the app isnt even on the market yet.

    Would you be interested in buying access to the app, and what would be a worthwile price?

    I thought about running this only for myself, but i realised that if i give it out for a fee we can come up to way more ways to monetize this then the few i came up with.

    Currently im thinking about a hosted version, where the backend is on my servers in panama for a price in the $200-$400 / month range, and a self hosted version where you get your own backend app for like $1000.

    Any comments on this would be very welcome, as im very much hesitating about selling this out or not.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  2. PresFox

    PresFox Registered Member

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    81 views and no reply's? :( Just looking for some feedback here guys. The app already exists, this is not some kind of "if you like it i will make it" post
     
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    The concept is good, the problem I see with this is the ridicuosly vast amount of keywords that you would have to target to get any conversions.

    You would surely need a huge amount of installs for this to be effective.
     
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    Instead of developing an app like that why dont you buy Tooyo with your affiliate link. I think I saw it on PDC .. You can save quite a lot ;)
     
  5. PresFox

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    it seems you do not entirely understand what the app does :)

    The keyword part is only small, its the url redirection that makes this so powerfull,

    Redirects visitors of google to your search page, visitors of farmville to your facebook app, visitors of any affiliate url to your affiliate url (thanks to the wildcards and preg matches)

    show users of facebook a survey, users of google a google warning to install software, you name it and it can be done
     
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    The major problem with the tool is getting people to install such a thing on their computers. It is more or less an adware tool and people are always cautious of that.
     
  7. PresFox

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    true, but as you can name it anything you want, that wouldnt be that much of a problem

    Name it Modern warfare 2 for all i care,

    Virustotal or anything does report it as completely safe

    Also, a functionality i forgot, it also can set any header you want, valid, so no aff network will know where your traffic is coming from
     
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    Right, I see now, I must have been high or drunk when I originally read the post.

    In which case, yeah, its a great idea.

    As for getting people to install it, well, I think you would go for the 'silent install' method ;)
     
  9. PresFox

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    possible, yes :)
     
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    If you're getting them to install already and running adware I would think there are many more profitable ways of monetizing it.
     
  11. PresFox

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    yeah, but unfortunatly im coming up blank for now, wich would be a reason to license it out to share ideas

    Also, i could use some money to actually push installs, so im leaning towards licensing it out, already in discussion with a few people that sent me PM's after reading this thread.....
     
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  12. PresFox

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    think you could share some? i have a few of course, but im sure there are plenty more to think off
     
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    Hey I'm interested in this software did you ever create it?
     
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    I like this.. sending PM.
     
  15. PresFox

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    Yeah i did, its alive and kicking
     
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    I would do it as a pay per install being really obvious about what the program does, if I were going to use a program like this. I would say that it can enhance their surfing experience by trying to match products to their searches. I don't like tricking people into installing things on their computer by outright deceit.
     
  17. PresFox

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    Good thing is then that you can, as you can name the app anything you want
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    Can you code it so that 50% of the searches redirect to pages YOU (as the creator) want, and then release the program for free? Then others will spread the program for you, and you get 50% of the income, and people don't have to pay anything. Of course you can offer a paid version which gives the user 100% of the searches.

    That is what I would do to spread the program. You won't get enough users willing to pay for the program, for you to make a killing. Your best bet is release it for free and take part of the searches.
     
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    This sounds quite blackhat and you did mention that, but is it illegal? I mean they did accept the terms, but does that make it 100% legit and legal?

    Very interesting idea and if you target the right people and know what they're searching for you could make an absolute killing. I don't know one person that doesn't go on the Internet at least once a day, but the problem would be finding out what they were going to search before they did it.

    I suppose you could look up trends for a week or so for the people and then throw your affiliate links in. Maybe if they look at porn every other day and they continually go to the same site you could work with that.

    Awesome idea though! I generally stay away from buying software, especially monthly, so I wouldn't know about the price, but the concept is great.
     
  20. PresFox

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    hmmmm, i do like the idea of a free version, but problem is that i think the main functionality is the redirection, not so much the searches.

    What people search for is no problem, all their searches are logged and visible..