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Too many backlinks? F*CK IT!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by M1ndfluX, Dec 24, 2010.

  1. M1ndfluX

    M1ndfluX Senior Member

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    So there are a lot of threads around BHW regarding backlinks and especially how many a day etc.

    First of all. What works for you doesnt have to work for me as there are many more factors regarding serps as we all know.

    But certainly this works for me.

    Once a week for each $ site i have i do a xrumer, article marketing robot, GSA website submitter and scrapebox run. So say roughly 2000 forum profiles, 200 articles, 500 directory submissions and 20k comments.

    So here is what i do:

    First i make the articles pointing directly to my cash sites or one of their pages with the according anchor text.

    Then i create The directory submissions. Accepting can take up to half a year so the juice is flowing...
    EACH WEEK

    I creat forum profiles with xrumer. The anchored link points to my cash site and the sig is a randomly choosen other profile from that run.

    Then i make roughly 20k comments ponting with the right anchor text to the profiles and already accepted articles and directories.

    I totally dominate a particular niche i am in and now expanding to niches close to these to take over more kw and phrases.

    Point is. I had NEVER a site trough the G-toilet and sure, some took some severe beatings costing me $600 a month for not beeing on page one but since the last week some are pretty stable beeing number one, another site beeing 2 and 3 and #5 and 7.

    If a costumer decides to buy at store #2 its also good :D

    Simple version:

    Invest your recently $ in programs and make backinks as much as u can in a smart way.
    BUT: programs do not make $. The marketeer behind the screen who uses these programs does...

    Invest in time and tools
     
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  2. -Jericho-

    -Jericho- Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    People are so terrified of being sandboxed. That's ok, be scared people while the rest of us make money.
     
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  3. Kickflip

    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    I did 50,000 backlinks in 3 days to my new site... Did I go sandbox? Nope, I went to Number 1.
     
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    Its not about how many its the velocity right? You need to create them at a steady pace.

    If you do 2000 and stop ur screwed. If you do a steady amount weekly or increase that amount weekly no sandbox.

    This is what I have been told repeatedly.
     
  5. DavidM19

    DavidM19 Junior Member

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    Yeah I've been directly blasting my site with sb and amr all the time.

    I dance a bit but it's all good :)

    once i run out of autoapprove blogs to send towards my site, i'll go through my lists again and point them at my articles.

    So far seen nothing but good results :)

    My blog was spammed by a guy who was doing what you do (pointing spam comments towards profile links) he wasn't ranking well, but his site was new, does that work pretty well then? wouldn't that take awhile?
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    Dont worry about that either. Just build build build. Just dont be a SPAMMER with junk comments on peoples blogs so you don't get manually reported and you should be fine. Also, don't try to promote viagra on a family friendly blog/forum.
     
  7. M1ndfluX

    M1ndfluX Senior Member

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    Not in my experience and i've been around more then 12 yrs. Just what kickflip said, worked for me too with some campaigns.

    I don't ping them or whatsoever, let G pick them up theirselves, i got plenty...

    Same with the sudden backlinks missing. So what if i just lost 10k. My competition had the same and they did not invest. They took a service to do it for them half a year ago...
     
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    ┼blackrat┼ Senior Member

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    IMO, Bad Advice m1ndflux. People with new sites and your strategy will be sandboxed. Not as a general rule, see kickflip´s case, but there are high chances. You go overboard on number of links straight to your money site, you´re screwed. I agree with the "smart building links" you mentioned though.

    Balance is the key here:

    Don´t be a scaredy cat, but don´t be the madman with a shotgun either.

    In case you can´t help being the madman:

    Unleash your beasts and create zillions of backlinks, BUT DO IT IN TIERS(point the majority of links to a set of properties who then link to your main page, so that the juice is FUNNELED and you don´t get too many links pointing straight to your money site).
     
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    Anubis1980 Regular Member

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    Better question:

    how long will this last?;)
     
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  10. M1ndfluX

    M1ndfluX Senior Member

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    As already stated, what works for me doesnt have to work for you. Just explaining here what works for ME. its not a advice whatsoever.

    True. I have a couple 3+ domains but i try to create a new one each two weeks and they need love too... Never had a problem. Sure big dance here and there but its fine with me. After a few months page one is mine...
     
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    Yes and no. This also depends on the niche you're in. If it's a very competitive niche where there's a lot of links being created then you can blast the crap out of a site a lot of times.

    The one mistake that I see, as you have pointed out, is that people blast all their links to one page instead of spreading them out through the site.
     
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    IMHO Time will answer all your questions.

    Do yo get sandboxed or you are finding new way.
     
  13. Kickflip

    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    Well, I did 10k to my last site 4 months ago, and no problems at all. The site rose to top 10 rankings and just sits there now. I have honestly never seen a problem directly blasting my site.

    Maybe my links don't look spammy so I don't get reported? Maybe because I blast every page of my sites equally? I really don't know, but I have never seen sandbox before.
     
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    Just a note for the OP, my programs do make money :)

    And back to the topic, i made new website here 4 weeks ago, and started blasting scrapebox and xrumer, and bought social bm´s, and directory submissions, atm it got 5300 backlinks found by scrapebox, and there´s proberly another 20k forum profiles, and a lot of blog comments not found yet, my site is going up nicely :)

    Aslong as you dont spam it all on your homepage i guess, mix it up a bit with deep linking and such, and ofc different type of backlinks
     
  15. DavidM19

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    Yeah I will usually dance for a few days, then shoot straight back up the serps.
     
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    That´s a nice way to boost up your site, as long as there is a link to main page on all subpages, which is the case obviously // It´s just like motorcycles. There are 2 kinds of people: those who fell off of them, and those who will.
     
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    It really depends as i've seen anywhere between a few days to a few months. It's mainly the new sites that go for a dive in the sandbox if you get crazy with them from the get go, they tend to respond better if you build gradually imho.
     
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    can u guys tell me whats best way to go about making backlinks/programs required?

    atm i only make scrapebox comments to my money site.
     
  19. Jesperj

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    if you only got scrapebox, then order some services here, many are very cheap compared to what you get for it. have a look trough it.