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Today's value of spam Social likes/shares

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ThopHayt, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. ThopHayt

    ThopHayt Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Based on what I've read Google is increasing its awareness of social signals. However from what I've read it also appears that they are gradating this. Meaning they give HIGH juice flows to reputable social accounts' shares, while giving little if any juice to the links and shares (or tweets, pins, or whatever bullshit) of spammy and new accounts.

    This essentially means to me that the value of pure high volume spammy socials is in question. This worries me because I have been using them a lot and always have. Most the cheap likes/shares/tweets/pins/etc you buy are from either newish spam accounts, or aged spam whore accounts who do nothing but churn out shares/likes/pins/etc ALL DAY LONG 24/7 365 DAYS A YEAR. And if what I am understanding is corrent this means I'm getting little if any bang from these signals.

    My solution. Social account managers and bot creators need to start building in ways to make fake accounts scrape content for non-advertising/sharing/spamming posts from the web, then spin it, and then add it to a post que so that only a fraction of the fake accounts' posts are actually spamming links. Thus making them look real to Google.

    So there you go. A free idea for any savvy bot maker to run with and gain an advantage over other social bots. Enjoy.
     
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    Is that mean the game of fake social signals are OVER?
     
  3. hanssolo

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    Good idea~
    Fake social signals never work well, at least not long.
    Let's hope someone is going to develop something like that soon.
     
  4. ThopHayt

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    Maybe not quite over... but Google is essentially giving them PR just like websites (only obviously its not actually PR, but the concept is the same). The low quality spam accounts are PR0, and the new accounts are PR0 too. But Google LOVES real social signals, so REAL LOOKING accounts that behave like real users (and don't just post backlinks) are going to be the equivalent of high-PR links. An account needs "real" looking followers, and needs to make "real" looking posting behavior.

    Lets hope so. It shouldn't be hard. People just need to realize that even FAKE accounts need to start sending out MORE posts/tweets/pins that don't have backlinks. The concept is simple, just have your bot scrape content and post 10 non-backlinked posts for every backlinked post. Google definitely notices when accounts do nothing but share backlinks. A mix is plain text or image shares needs to be done to gain the account social PR.
     
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    The only thing fake social signals have EVER done for me is get a new site indexed.
     
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    The point is, they changed something that did not need to be changed just so people would use google+(on the long run) , something that nobody gave a shit about
     
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    It sounds like then, for social media accounts like FB, you will have to build up a money account using a friend pyramid to make a few real(fake) accounts that will provide high quality social singles then.

    Main account with 10 fake/Spam seasoned friends, who each have 100 spam noob friends.

    Its like doing the same thing on a money site... hmmm
     
  8. ThopHayt

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    Essentially. But just doing a pyramid won't help. You will have to water down the percentage of your posts that are backlinks as well.

    Social signals are about to get a LOT more complicated to use.
     
  9. Malice

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    There are already some smart botmakers who are focusing on this, such as FriendBomber and MassPlanner. Currently I have MassPlanner running 24/7 with about three hundred, 2 Year old, Facebook Accounts which act like human users. Of course many people prefer just to dump their accounts in the bot, upload a list of links to share or like and punch "GO". I try and use my accounts for social signals only about once every month or two. But on a daily basis my accounts like random newsfeed posts from friends and pages, login to check notifications or post status updates throughout the day and post a selfie or other image every few days to a week. I also have the software configured with sleep schedules, so there is a period of 8-9 hours where my accounts are not active. This has actually helped my accounts a great deal from getting banned and they do actually seem pretty genuine. The software as well as FriendBomber can also spin posts. I would say that any FB account software that cant do these tasks is pretty much pointless these days. Just my honest opinion at least..
     
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  10. Enexseenge

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    Right in line with my current thinking.

    In essence... someone doing SMM needs to look at fake profiles more like complete brands... that is to say that the profile is not just a support element for some other brand... the social profile is a BRAND IN IT SELF :D
     
  11. Enexseenge

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    Oh man i think i got a method figured out...

    Anyways...

    Question: HAve anyone try Sendible?

    I look at comparison chart located on some site and apparently sendible has many more feature than MassPlanner...?