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Today around 25 AC accounts were banned^_^

Discussion in 'Associated Content & Writing Articles' started by georgesmith08, Jul 25, 2009.

  1. georgesmith08

    georgesmith08 Newbie

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    I created 30 AC accounts and posted 5 articles in each and got paid by linking all emails to a single paypal account^_^.

    All my accounts are suspended and AC asking me to file W9 which I will never do. I think they check paypal accounts now. But multiple paypal is risky.

    So maybe this time I create 3 account and use seperate paypal then mail it to my original paypal. Will this work? And I use VPN. IP is not the problem i think , but Multiple ACC using same paypal is the problem I think.

    What might be the exact reason for scrutiny? And how to solve this problem in future?

    Any advices can help?

    thanks
     
  2. srb888

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    Thirty a/c linked to one PP???!!!! No wonder they jumped on you. Some of them must have fainted there!:eek:
     
  3. AGSniper

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    They may be starting to check the paypal name with your AC name possibly. That may be a solution, but if you get banned again, it's highly likely a proxy problem.

    Try to eliminate one thing at a time leaving a single variable to see if it's the problem. Just like any other marketing thing, this is something that may need some testing and tweaking.

    Other than paypal accounts and proxy, I don't see any other reason they could be finding out.
     
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    redtide1969 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I just sent him a long email with where he went wrong. That's what I said...30 AC account's linked to 1 PP email? But I think he's understanding where he went wrong ;-)
     
  5. preedge

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    Red, how to get around that problem, then? :)
     
  6. georgesmith08

    georgesmith08 Newbie

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    well I kinda sorted that out myself. But I did it to test. If AC can track it.

    My question is seperate AC account with seperate pp account will work?
    US paypal has limit 0$ till you add bank account/credit card
     
  7. georgesmith08

    georgesmith08 Newbie

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    lol my question is, as long as I give quality content why should they worry?
    US or Non-US all work to make money. I pay tax for the money I earn here. Hope they lift this US thingie and make it global. So all can produce quality content and earn.
     
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    georgesmith08 Newbie

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    my other question. PP getting paranoic these days. They suddenly limit account usage. If I create fake accounts and paypal slams limit. I am a goner. And same happened to my original paypal account. I had to send address proof, bank proof and also call them to lift the limit.

    Any suggestions?

    thanks
     
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    Sigh. Private businesses are getting more harsh nowadays...

    Yes I totally i agree with you on the fact that if you are still providing quality content, it shouldn't be a problem. If you look at it, the more we write for them, the more they're profiting due to the fact that they make a ton of money from adsense.

    My guess is that separate PP and AC does work, but I don't have enough credit cards to test this out.
     
  10. preedge

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    But doesn't PP only allow 2 accounts per person? If you are going to create fake accounts, how would you withdraw the money?
     
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    only one PP account for 1 person. We create fake PP account and send all those cash to our real PP account. I think AC check the name in acc with PP account holder name.

    Thats how I got suspended.
     
  12. preedge

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    Thanks, george. We just have to be extra careful with accessing multiple accounts, lest we get all accounts, including the real one (ouch!), limited.
     
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    You can have 2 PP accounts (1. Personal and 2. Premier/Business), if they are tied to 2 different bank accounts.

    If you unwittingly use a proxy while using PP, or have simply forgotten to stop your proxy and use your default IP while opening your exiting PP account, your PP account will immediately become limited and you'll have to provide verification.

    @ Fake PP account: Not an option for 99.9 percent people who cannot handle it. It takes complete mastery over how you handle IPs, Proxies, cookies, cache, etc. but it still is completely risky.

    If your PP gets limited, there is no alternative to stopping the AC account that's tied to it till the PP gets back to normal, or ...

    ... you can still continue using that AC account and get more money in the limited PP account, but you cannot withdraw until the PP a/c is clear again. (There could be another option which I am still unaware of... never felt the need :D, May be, you can change your PP details in AC...)

    There are JUST two rules here for the majority of people who are depending on PP:

    Rule 1:
    Don't ever play games with PP. You will never win!

    Rule 2:
    Read Rule 1.
    :)
     
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  14. redtide1969

    redtide1969 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Ok all, I'm getting bombarded with questions here because 1) certain things haven't been adhered to if you puchased my book or 2) you didn't study up on working AC if you're a non purchaser. I will try to answer all questions to the best of my abilities for both purchasers and non purchasers. Then I'm going to bed because I've got a big headache now lol

    Also, It's not a good idea for us to talk in open forum about proxy usage with AC. We've already discussed that this forum is watched by both AC themselves and AC writers(sources) for comments in the AC forums...we need to cover our backs here people. Don't openly discuss things that will allow AC to target exactly who you are...period.

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    Yes AG, they have been checking PP names with AC names since day one mate. It's been well covered here in the AC sub forum. Like I've already discussed, if you give them a reason to look into your AC accts they will find out that all go to one main PP acct. If this is the case there is nothing you can do about it. Again, this is much safer than trying to screw around with PP by trying to open multiple PP accts. It's much easier to deal with AC bans than it is PP bans...believe me. Linking all AC accts to one PP account with seperate emails is a necessery evil for doing this method. Again, AC accounts should be considered disposable. You need to get a good feel for what AC wants with the articles and give it to them consistently...if you do this they will never look into your PP accounts


    "My guess is that separate PP and AC does work, but I don't have enough credit cards to test this out."

    Again mate, it's been well covered here that it can work until PP finds out...many people have posted up over the last year here in the AC sub forum the nasty results of trying to do this...again AC bans are much better than PP bans


    It's been well documented here in the AC section what happens if you try to send fake PP acct funds to a central legit Paypal...it's not good.

    Again, you never want to create 30 accts within three days and then forward them all to one PP email.

    That's all the time I've got for Q and A's tonight.

    I'll be back tomorrow with more follow up but i will say...if you purchased my guide please re-read it and follow the things I discuss. If you're a non purchaser PLEASE read this sub-forum so you know the basics of how to successfully get started with AC.

    Good luck all,

    Redtide
     
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    Good night, dear friend! I completely agree with you on everything you say.

    You have answered most of these questions, if not all, in your Guide. Those are very doable step-by-step tutorials in there, and definitely any more open discussions will pose difficulties for the coming generations! :D

    Sweet Dreams, Red! And stay away from your 'virtual' PC while you are resting! :)
     
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  16. Millygirl

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    I don't understand why they should banned an account because of a simple name. A person can only have two account per household.

    So if a woman decides to use her husband's PP account (for example) her AC account can get banned?

    What about using a business account with a Business name?
     
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    Hey Antonio,

    Help me to try and help you get this sorted (AC may have just yesterday started auto checking IP's, but I doubt it)

    Explain how you registered the account...had you ever used that same IP in the past to register? There are many variables that could have gotten the account flagged without having submitted any articles. PM me if you need to keep the info out of open forum and I will help you try to pinpoint it.

    Again, AC is ever evolving so it is a possibilty that they've just started auto checking during registration. I've been in contact and trying to clarify it with my AC source and they say nothing new has been put in place.

    Let's go from here trying to figure out where people may be going wrong during registration and account set up.


    Hi Milly,

    It's kind of a double standard that's been going on with AC since day one unfortunetely. Two household members "in theory" should both be able to share it but for whatever reason AC doesn't like it. It makes no sense to me either :rolleyes:
     
  18. Millygirl

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    Redtide, how good is your source? I'm about to place my ad on GAF to get a team of writers. Like to know if I have to adjust a few things before outsourcing.

    Also, I noticed GAF has a free trial for new users is it better to pay the fee or use the free trial?
     
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    redtide1969 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    My source is about as good as they get, she worked for AC for over four years and still has contact with sources inside AC. For obvious reasons that's about all the info I'll give on that.

    As far as having to adjust a few things...dig in. Test things out and see how the process works. Once you get started and have been doing it for a month or so you will have a much better perspective on how things work.

    I will say to everyone in general (not you personaly Milly)...You have to get started and learn little things as you go along. I don't mind helping everyone where I can, but I can't answer constant PM's asking me to fill the gaps that you only learn by digging in and getting started. I want to help you all but I can't spend my whole day typing answers to things that have 1) been covered here in the AC sub-section 2) were covered in my AC Guide, or 3) You'll learn for yourself once you get started and get a feel for AC after a few weeks to a month. You need to see what works based upon you and your rewriters writing skills, you need to look at this as a business and go in with that kind of mindset.

    For instance Iturnwell who just posted in my thread found a great team of writers in less than a week. She's getting $3.69 - $4.30 and just got started with AC. She dug in and is making it happen like I said in my book...that's what I suggest everyone does


    @ Milly, yes it's fine to use up the free trial. To have the biggest selection of bidders I like to open two GAF accts. Again, you want to get through the hiring process as soon as possible so you can get to the making money part. Weed out the bad writers and stick with it until you have a solid team.

    Good luck
     
  20. racku

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    it's hard to earn money this days :(