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To those who IM 12 hours a day what do you do all day?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by dgfalk, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. dgfalk

    dgfalk Power Member

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    I read all your guy's posts that say you work 12 hours a day every day working on IM, and Im wondering what could you possibly have to do that takes 12 hours?

    Im in a position where I can only afford to spend about $300 a month on IM related stuff, mostly article writing and backlinking. So I get all my articles wrote and then I buy services to get them backlinked ( I have to admit Im one lazy mofo and refuse to do any sort of manual backlinking). Once I get all that done, Im pretty much done for the month. The only thing I do myself is KW research. Id say I spend maybe 5 hours a week on IM when I can easily devote 20 hours a week.

    My question is what else can I do with those remaining 15 hours?? I wanna maximize my IM efforts but I feel like I cant without the capital.
     
  2. accelerator_dd

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    Well since you don't have the capital I would suggest you spend it wisely.

    First off, take out the 'lazy' parametar. You can't expect to reach the heights we all want if you don't want to put the work into it. What I do?

    Write article, spin 3 articles, blast amr, senuke x, xrumer, scrapebox, bmd, and start over

    If I finish up earlier today, i never go with the attitude "good for me, more free time today", i start off again, same thing.

    IM is a business, if you don't work that much, maybe someone in your business will outwork you. Why not spend those 300$ on tools and start doing things yourself?

    IM is never 'done'. You can always scale, all you need is the tools, and 15$ for domain + hosting and you can make a website, rank it, spend 50-60$ on captchas, start earning money. Do it again, after you are at a point where you can't do evreything by yourself because it's just too much, then outsourcing is the key.


    My 14 hours/day ? I work, write, spin, build links, doesn't matter as long as it contributes to my campaign.
     
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  3. dgfalk

    dgfalk Power Member

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    I guess that its not that Im lazy, I just hate backlinking, and I ABSOLUTELY HATE article writing. I enjoy doing IM and I think its alot of fun, but once I sit down to backlink or write an article I get very frustrated and am no longer interested in IM, and I dont want that.

    You make a good point that I should buy more tools. I do own scrapebox and I have it running pretty much 24/7 backlinking the web2.0 I have created for me. I also own AMR but I havnt seen one good result from the program since the day I bought it. It has sent every site I used it on straight to the sandbox. Maybe I could learn to use it better or use it on my buffer sites.

    senuke and xrumer cost to much for me at the moment. BMD is an option, maybe ill look into getting that.
     
  4. JohnnyRabbit

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  5. shadowedsniper

    shadowedsniper Junior Member

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    I probably spend more wasted time looking at Google Analytics reports and idling facebook than I do working in any given day.

    If you spend 12 hours a day writing articles, you'll blow your brains out by the 2nd week. I've found that high quality articles posted to YOUR site rank very well naturally post panda so that is definitely worth investing in. I outsource articles in batches of 10 or so, 1k words each and have a turn around time of about 5 days.

    Spend your extra time doing keyword research and making sure you send your writer keywords worth making articles for. IMO this can't be stressed enough. I have a friend who has been trying to be successful for years now and just can't grasp the necessity for finding good keywords. He outsources articles with random keywords that he thinks are important. His latest site has been live for about six months with no less than 10k words of high quality unique content--but his keywords are just so bad that he gets maybe 5 good clicks a day if he's lucky.

    Post an article to your site every couple days until you have tons of unique content. Backlink (or outsource backlinking) along the way.
     
  6. david wright

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    I understand what you two are saying but remember that we are not all at that level yet when we can afford to outsource.

    I think the real goal should be to work hard enough to one day afford to outsource most of it and not have IM feel like another job you do 8 or more hrs a day and have it become a boring routine.

    However, a lot of people do enjoy the work. They like having control of everything or most of their internet marketing A lot of people also don't trust other people enough to outsource work they can do themselves or can't find people to do it at a good enough standard.
     
  7. shadowcat

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    Is the question about doing work for 12 hours,I hope IMers think that if possibly the whole day time could be expanded from 24 to 48 hours.

    Experimentation is the biggest factor in IM.All the day long you keep on doing experimentation to adapt to the changes of Big G sometimes you hit sometimes you fail and in between this each hours passes like seconds....so 12 hours is a pretty short time
     
  8. dgfalk

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    Like I said I dont mind doing KW research and the current site Im working on I have found 20 KWs in my niche that have monthly searches from 1500-5500 that I believe I can rank easily for. Those 20 KWs total 53,480 which I think is pretty decent. I need to get articles wrote for all those KWs which I pay $7 for 800 words and then probably have to spend a good $50 a KW to get it ranking decently.

    I guess if I just keep working on this project it will pay off, I just need to give it time.
     
  9. shadowedsniper

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    I think outsource is more hyped up than it really is. Take the value of a task like writing an article. If you think your time is more valuable than the cost of someone else doing it, then outsource it. I know that it would take me an hour or more to produce a high quality article so obviously I would much rather spend $10 than have to write it myself.

    There really isn't any entry level to outsourcing. Instead of going out to dinner, you could invest the money into articles.

    I personally enjoy writing my own landing pages but that's just because I haven't found anyone capable of doing the work for me (if they could, they'd do it for themselves).

    The only time I would ever NOT advise outsourcing something like basic article writing is if you literally have $0 to your name and are just starting out. You gain some good experience from doing things yourself at first.
     
  10. dgfalk

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    I can afford to outsource to a certain extent. And the things I do pay for outsourcing (article writing, backlinking) I refuse to do myself. The day I have to do those 2 jobs myself is the day I quit IM. I want to enjoy IM and be able to say I pay so-and-so X amount of dollars but in the end I make XX amount of dollars.

    Maybe this is my downfall and I just have to accept it even if it take me 3 times as long to reach my goals.
     
  11. JohnnyRabbit

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