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To Those Of You Who Have Had Experience In Black AND White Hat

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by 75INZ, Dec 4, 2010.

  1. 75INZ

    75INZ Regular Member

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    I'm curious, to those of you who have had experience both black hatting and white hatting.

    While white hatting did you ever get tired of the spam comments produced by black hatters?

    Last week I decided I wanted to try a complete white hat blog, it's going very well actually (Better than any of my black hat blogs oddly enough) But I do receive a lot of spam comments. It's slightly anoying but it's nothing Akismet and I can't take care of.

    So I'm curious. What were your experiences as a white hatter who has had black hat experience? Why did you decide to try black hatting? Was it because of the spam (If you can't beat 'em join 'em?)
     
  2. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    just add a captcha to comments or a honeypot form field and do some customization to the comment posting by using a hook. Like you can add a hidden field named 'email_something' and if it gets filled with a value it means is spam because a real user wouldn't see it. Or, add a text field and say "Do NOT enter anything in this field", or make it invisible with CSS. Or use a combination of the above. Spambots work only if your sites follow the same structure as default sites.
     
  3. 75INZ

    75INZ Regular Member

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    Yeah, it's fairly easy to prevent. If I hadn't had any black hat experience I'd most likely be getting mad at some of the spam. I think the black hat experience has helped me to appreciate (for lack of a better word) the black hat culture.
     
  4. 75INZ

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    Yeah, it's fairly easy to prevent. If I hadn't had any black hat experience I'd most likely be getting mad at some of the spam. I think the black hat experience has helped me to appreciate (for lack of a better word) the black hat culture.
     
  5. tacopalypse

    tacopalypse Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    black hats play the game to make the most amount of money possible.

    white hats impose unnecessary limitations on themselves and therefore make less money.
    but for most white hats, the smug sense of moral superiority over the black hats is worth the decreased paycheck.

    to each his own ;)
     
  6. Remington

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    White hat = not making money, and being frustrated all the time.

    I wanted money! And it was frustrating to keep NOT being able to get my site to rank!

    Nope, back when I started all the sites were static and there was no such thing as comments, let alone spam comments. I simply wanted to be #1 in Google. For thousands of keywords. Any way I could do it.

    My original empire eventually got nuked by G (which now seems to ignore all links I throw at the old sites, even though they're not banned).

    Still, now that I know what it's like to have all those #1s, there's no way on Earth anyone'll convince me to go white hat. Black hat is not only more lucrative, it's more fun! There's nothing like waking up one day to find all your pages, on all your sites, sitting at the top of the SERPs.
     
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  7. Yukinari84

    Yukinari84 Elite Member

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    1. Protecting your WH sites from spammers is pretty easy to do and is definitely something you want to incorporate on your WH sites.

    2. Incorporating both BH and WH techniques in my strategies always works the best for me. This allows me to generate quick cash, while build up long-term steady income at the same time, gain a massive competitive edge on my competition....diversification is the easiest way to grow and protect your business at the same time IMHO.
     
  8. LyNHS

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    Whitehat will always win in the long run. It's harder, but boy is it more rewarding and there are a lot more benefits.

    However, you can't go wrong by doing a bit of Blackhat along the way. One good example is manipulating Blackhat software, such as Xrumer or ScrapeBox, for Whitehat purposes. Automation will save you time, which ultimately will get you to where you want to be faster.
     
  9. LyNHS

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    With regards to the spamming ... are you using Wordpress? Surely Akismet should take care of the majority of spam right?
     
  10. Cyber_Demon12

    Cyber_Demon12 Junior Member

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    White hat is for long term income

    Black hat is for fast cash but is usually pretty risky

    I use black hat money for play money and money to invest in my white hat ideas :)
     
  11. marikoe

    marikoe Registered Member

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    Tel us what do you do?

    These guys talk about black hat money like its a peace of cake what do you guys do.
     
  12. dannyhw

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    Black hat is getting less and less lucrative. Years ago if anyone suggested we write articles or sign up on web 2.0 sites we'd have looked at them like they had 2 heads.

    White hat seems lame until you're pulling in huge money using other peoples money and resources to rank top 5 for some of the most expensive keywords around. Figuring out how to get 1 specific link that will shoot you from position 85 to 1 is awesome. Love to see someone try to do this stuff with xrumer blasts.