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To Spin or Not to Spin? That is the questions

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by nanotechno, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. nanotechno

    nanotechno Junior Member

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    Quick question for some IM "gurus" out there...

    If you have built a link wheel do you spin the article 10 times and post it to your 10 web 2.0 properties linking to each other, linking to $ site etc.,

    or is that too obvious if a spam engineer was to go back and manually review your links...

    or maybe G has a algo to filter out spinned articles...

    Any input or insight on how you mix up the content of your articles would be much appreciated!
     
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  2. Juan.A

    Juan.A Newbie

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    For a 10 spoke linkwheel I usually write 3-4 unique articles and spin them to %70+ uniqueness using TBS. I usually add a video to all my web 2.0, this adds more value, I create them using Animoto.

    My web 2.0 don't ever get deleted this way since I provide quality unique content.

    I would also like to hear how other people here do this.
     
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  3. nanotechno

    nanotechno Junior Member

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    Bump. @juan.a good fedback...do use SENukeX to set up profiles and submit content or are you manual?

    I'm curious to find out what others do...
     
  4. Creme

    Creme Newbie

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    I'm doing all article submissions manually as I am no way paying for SeNuke no matter how much faster it works. Also if I got SeNuke it'd mean I'd want TBS to work within it which is even more money. I'm just gonna stick with my ScrapeBox until my earnings get a bit up again then consider investing more once that happens.
     
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    blackhataffiliate Senior Member

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    I never spin and have never had any issues.
     
  6. nanotechno

    nanotechno Junior Member

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    @creme Thanks for the feedback...yeah I'm pretty much doing manual submissions, web 2.0 profiles, and building links to my web 2.0 sites using scrapebox...

    besides that and other SEO 101 strategies that's what I'm sticking to...
     
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  7. linkdropper4

    linkdropper4 Junior Member

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    I agree, spinning is not worth the time in my opinion. The only time I spin is if someone else wrote the article because I am too lazy to write another one. I tested a site where I submitted a bunch of PLR articles through some tools and backlinked them all to eachother, and it ranked better than I had expected (page 1) not a tough keyword in my test.

    Panda had not effect on the site, it dropped because I quit building links to it. Thus I concur that spinning is overrated. It's a great way to quickly not steal someone else's work, well at least in the eyes of the law.
     
  8. dotcomdesigns

    dotcomdesigns Power Member

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    I don't believe spinning articles gets past Google. Think about it, a $2 billion company who employs some of the cleverest people on the planet which creates one of the most sophisticated search algorithums invented gets duped by a $70 spinner. I don't think so.
     
  9. nanotechno

    nanotechno Junior Member

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    BTW Google is a $162.65 billion company...

    and yes spinned content gets past the almighty Google all the time. Why? Because there's a round 266,848,493 websites (as of 2010), there isn't enough time in the day or engineers in the world that could filter that mess out.

    i.e., eHow
     
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  10. Juan.A

    Juan.A Newbie

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    I use SENukeX for the web 2.0, and then I blast them using scrapebox :D

    Yeah, SENukeX is a bit too expensive, there is a similar tool which I have recently heard of, it's called VenomSEO, you can teach the tool to do basically the same things SENukeX does and it's way more cheaper (57/month). Looks interesting, I will soon try it out.

    And as for the TBS, it's quite expensive, but it's worth the price. You can now buy TBS for $47/year, I have just found a discount promo on the WarriorForum.
     
  11. efwebs

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    I would take the time to spin the article very well. Rewrite every sentence or even paragraphs before adding synonyms. Proofread the spun results a few times and correct any glaring grammatical errors.

    The goal is to get as many WELL written articles as you want from one, which can take up to a few hours, but pays back dividends because you can use it over and over on sites like web2.0 properties that you want to be good enough to pass a manual review.

    As long as they are technically unique and well written, I don't think google will penalize you for posting them on different sites on the web.

    I need to make a list and post it on here, but there are a few dozen good blog platforms out there that allow you you to create multiple blogs under one account. So, my setup if is to make a new blog for each niche, and a new post to that blog for each keyword I am targeting. Each post is posted on the front of the blog as well as it's own page, so I can backlink to both for authority.
     
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  12. jacky2002r

    jacky2002r Junior Member

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    You are right mate, If you do proper spinning there is no way that Google or any other machine, BOT or any other super computer can catch you. There are some strictly rules for spinning if you do it in wrong manner you will not get benefit outta it.

    I spin my articles in below order, it does require more time to do so but its way more beneficial than normal word spinning. I have learned it from theleadingarticlesDOTcom. They do sell it for $17 but they share the same article with 300 others members, which surely make uniqueness of article little lower side. That is why I create my own by following their Method. :D

    1) I write an original (passing the copyscape test) 500+ words interesting and very well researched article.

    2) Then I also create 5 unique variations per paragraph ? this is the only way to get uniqueness rates of 50% and above.

    3) Then I create 5 unique variations for each sentence of each paragraph variation!

    4) Finally I spin phrases and words of each sentence.

    This 4 steps process allows to create about 116,415,321,826,934,814,453,125 unique variations from 1 single Spinnable Article!

    This task eat my 4 hours a day but I can use this content with SenukeX, LinkDozer, Link Builder PRO, SEOLinkVine, among other which helps me to create hundreds of unique articles back-linking to my money site each and every day. This is how you can increase your rankings and get a lot of free traffic from the search engines.

    Here are 2 variations generated from 1 SUper Spinnable Article just to give you an idea of what you can expect, quality and uniqueness wise (take note on how the tips are different and how the paragraph structure changes between those 2 variations)


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    [B]Learning Spanish Does Not Have to be Hard[/B]
     Even someone who has never tried to learn a different language can   learn Spanish. Learning languages seems like a daunting task but   everybody is capable of doing it. After all, there are a lot of great   reasons to learn a language other than the one you grew up speaking.   Learning a new language will help you if you travel outside of the   country. It could also help you better communicate with the people you   meet in your own community. Many people start their foray into language   learning with learning Spanish. Here are a few hints that should make   the learning process easier.
    
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    [B]Quick Hints To Help You Learn Spanish[/B]
     Congratulations on your decision to learn Spanish!
     Thankfully, learning Spanish does not have to be difficult. Even if   you are someone who has trouble learning languages, Spanish is such a   dominant language in the world today that there are plenty of methods   that you can use to help make your learning process easier.
     Read this article to learn just a few things that you can do to make  your learning process a little easier.
    
     
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  13. dabeast

    dabeast Power Member

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    omg thats a lot of work :rolleyes: what about taking up 5 articles from anywhere and taking up one para from each article and then spinning it from tbs :D
     
  14. NitroCan

    NitroCan Senior Member

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    Create web 2.0 properties manually with real blog names. For example your KW is iphone games, make the blog like "myiphonegames.wordpress.com" and add relevant images to the blog to make it look legit.

    My properties always stick with this.
     
  15. nanotechno

    nanotechno Junior Member

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    Yep that's basically what I'm doing right now but my main concern is time management, maintenance and content because I'm running three campaigns with 3 different link wheels. I've about 60 web 2.0 profiles right now, and I'm trying to find ways to easily and effectively spin articles, and submit them.

    I don't want to spend all day copyrighting, because I'd rather go out and do business development and close deals.
     
  16. sidaz

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    spinning still works for me , if we talking about web 2.0
     
  17. miamimoe

    miamimoe Newbie

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    There is a few services out there that will send you a unique spun article every day. I use one that targets niches like weight loss. Monday thru Friday @ 17 bucks a month and spun at the paragraph, sentence and word level. Use those for my AMR and Web 2.0's.
     
  18. Mayas

    Mayas Regular Member

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    Whom service are you using?
     
  19. pangolin123

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    I would love to know as well..Is there such services?
     
  20. shamik

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    I think he is talking about ultra-spinnable minis can't post link google it.