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To go back to uni and complete a degree?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Dr_Scythe, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. Dr_Scythe

    Dr_Scythe Regular Member

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    Hey guys I've got a bit of a dilemma that I'm trying to come to a conclusion on. Just looking for some input :)

    If you don't want to hear my boring post high school story skip to the question at the bottom

    THE STORY: Straight out of high school i was inclined to take a gap year as I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do with my life, my parents convinced me that this was a bad idea and instead I ended up at University doing a Commerce Degree. Two years later and after a few failed units I decided I was not enjoying my accounting and business information systems double major and decided to take a year off to work out what I wanted.

    Since then I've been working full time for a few different IT firms doing everything from web design to sales to tech support as well as running my IM business on the side. My plan was to keep this up until IM earnings overtook full time employment earnings and then I could make the switch to working for myself full time. And this is still the plan I guess except...

    Now my parents are now starting to nudge and convince me to go back to uni and finish a degree if for nothing else to have something to fall back on in the case of my IM business never going anywhere. I couldn't go back and do Accounting because it bored the crap out of me but i thought maybe a major in either marketing or management or both might be a good idea to further my business as well as create something for me to fall back on.

    MY QUESTION - Do you think a university Commerce degree in either Marketing, Management or both would be helpful to an IM career? Or would it be a colossal waste of money?

    (Keep in mind I do a fair bit of offline IM doing SEO for other businesses as well as internal online ventures. In fact my business model revolves mostly around leveraging revenue from offline clients to fund my internal projects.)
     
  2. pokerjk

    pokerjk Senior Member

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    University just doesn't cut it anymore. You will learn a lot more going it alone and trying things in the real world. University for me was pointless, I did photography and multimedia. Both courses were very much learn it yourself which you can do without paying £1000's a year in tuition fees.

    I take it your living at home do you have little to pay in terms of rent and bills. Keep at the IM but put more work in. Get on the blower ringing potential new clients. My fear is if you go to University you believe you will come out and get an amazing job or start a company earning ££££££'s a year which just isn't true anymore as every dick and harry going to uni today.

    That's my opinion from someone who went to uni and regretted it (well not the drunken nights and girls).
     
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  3. thetroglodyte

    thetroglodyte Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I have an MBA and it was a big fat waste of 60k lol. I mean, I can't complain because perhaps if I didn't go that route I wouldn't have ended up here today for whatever reason, but skill wise, no help what-so-ever and today nobody cares about degree's anyway, just experience.
     
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    stelios0 Junior Member

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    Cba going uni...prefer waking up 5 pm
     
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    @Dr_Scythe go back to uni or your going to regret it for the rest of you life!

    Why? Because like is fucking long! You never know what life hits you with and a good university degree will be there to back you up in the worst of times!
     
  6. Dr_Scythe

    Dr_Scythe Regular Member

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    Yea still living at home until my income will permit otherwise. Would rather not rent if possible and just go straight to owning a house :p

    I would never think that way about university, hence me asking if it would be useful for me running my own business. It would purely be to benifit myself as a business owner and to have qualifications to fall back on down the track if required.

    Thanks for the input. It's this thought that is one of the main reasons I am actually considering going back in the first place. You never know what could happen in the future.
     
  7. Krazy Kitty

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    My advice: get a university degree and DON'T do IM. In twenty years, don't say KK didn't tell you so.
     
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    I'd do it. I graduated from high school 2 years ago, have been going to community college for the last 2 years, and am transferring to university in the fall (business major as well).

    While I know there is potential in IM, I'm certainly not depending on it. Having the degree to fall back on is a good idea.
     
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    Renting is not nice but a lot of people don't have choice at the moment with high deposits and being hard to get a mortgage sadly.

    Why don't you carry on doing what your doing and go do a part time course in the evenings once or twice a week? Seems a better option and it will be cheaper.
     
  10. Dr_Scythe

    Dr_Scythe Regular Member

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    Actually yea that's probably not a bad idea either. I guess the fact that I've already done the first year of the commerce degree regardless of the major is what's drawing me to uni but an evening course would probably suit my current schedule better as I wouldn't need to quit the day job in order to do it.
     
  11. TheFinal

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    This probably isn't useful or apply to you, but I am studying medicine and taking a mid-course year out to do research in virology. Obviously, I need it for my desired job of experimental medicine, but for your course, it probably isn't worth it. You'd probably learn more working for somebody else in the relevant career as University is just theory, whereas a job is practical hands-on knowledge.
     
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    Every fool with an IQ under 30 can get a degree in the US, aka, don't bother.
    Unless you want to learn "how 'great' America is" i'd put my money elsewhere.
     
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    LOL.. that is for sure!
     
  14. Timewave

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    Let me tell you something man, I have a bachelor's degree from a well respect university. Yes, I have that little piece of paper saying that I've graduated from college. But what does it really mean? What does it really mean to have this insignificant slice of wood fiber and ink? It just means I know how to learn.

    The number one thing that I've learned is that you have to write your own curriculum for life. If you have to learn something, learn HOW to learn. Then you can teach yourself just about anything.
     
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    Why the hell would you care about a degree when you are making serious bank from IM? Riddle me this.

    Don't waste your time/money on a piece of paper, increasingly useless these days, just get money. Money talks. But hey that's just me.