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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Uptownbulker, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. Uptownbulker

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    I just spent two fucking hours cleaning out the shitbag Xrumer registrations from a forum which I admin when I could have used those two hours to be making money.

    Be it therefore resolved that I hope that:

    (1) The girlfriends of Xrumer users come down with the clap given to them by someone else and then give it to the Xrumer user.

    (2) The Xrumer uses get crabs so bad that the little buggers are nesting in their eyebrows.

    (3) The IRS audits them for the last 7 years.

    (4) Their boxes all become botnetted and their ISPs ban them for life.

    (5) Someone else downloads the wrong kind of porn to their boxes and the Xrumer users get blamed for it.

    (6) Their cars all fail to start for no apparent reason and all need new ECUs which cost as much as the car is worth!

    (7) Their pets begin urinating and defecating all over the house in orgies of shit and piss.

    (8) Their identities are stolen by scammers and they are left eating out of the dumpsters behind KFCs.

    (9) Large flocks of birds begin to nest on their rooftops, inundating the entire property in huge smelly mounds of birdshit.

    (10) That small children shout out things like, "MOMMY! THAT'S HIM!" as the Xrumerer walks down a crowded street.

    And finally, that the Birds of Paradise may fly up their noses!
     
  2. BuzzKill

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    Depending on how you read this, that could be a stellar review.
     
  3. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Yeah but with the forum set to admin approval of profiles being required, they cannot post and all relevant info; WWWs, ICQs, AIMs, etc, is removed from the profile and the profile is never activated.

    It is NOT right to STEAL time out of the lives of others to try to make a buck.

    It is NOT right to steer innocent forum members to what may be phishing or infected websites.

    I do not believe in Karma but I will tell you this much....the IPs and other info of the Xrumer users who register on several hundred forums that I know of ARE being collected to a database and that database WILL go to people who CAN do things with it and those are things that the Xrumer users will NOT like!

    Give it a break; show some integrity and don't HURT people or STEAL from them while you try to make money!
     
  4. BuzzKill

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    Hey man, personally I agree with you, I draw the line at creating messes for people to clean up.
     
  5. Uptownbulker

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    Oh, thanks and sorry!

    Didn't mean to sound like I was after YOU!

    LOL!

    They just make me a bit cranky!

    If you can imagine, while I was typing that last post, I got THREE more Xrumer registrations!

    I'd really like to crawl through the pipe and leap out of their monitor like one of the Aliens and strangle them 'til their eyes pop out!

    The internet needs more guys with integrity, like yourself!:)
     
  6. BuzzKill

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    Not sure how I feel about it. I waste peoples time with cloaked pages, but they are still somewhat relevant so its not bad. I used to send a SHITLOAD of unsolicited email, porn no less, and this is a black hat forum, which means automation. I guess its a grey area and its relative. Devils advocate says there is gonna be some casualties, I personally dont do anything that trashes other peoples stuff, but I cant say I am contributing to the over all value of the internet either.
     
  7. steves

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    Uptown, you had mentioned in a previous post about Xrumer being nothing but a botnet program anyhow. Where did you read about this because the software seems pretty damn popular and widely used to be a backdoor botnet. If it is true then you could add #11 to your list...lol
     
  8. Aare

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    Just add some additional security elements, Its not that hard, Xrumer isnt good at math;).
     
  9. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    ?

    Help me out here, if you would.

    Like what?

    I'm using the latest version of PHPBB and I've got captcha enabled so they can't post without ADMIN approval. What they do is create profiles which then become pending approval.

    I don't know how to tell the software how to differentiate between a live user and a bot when it comes to registration! If there is a way, I'd sure like to know about it!
     
  10. Aare

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    There are elements that use simple math like 2+4= ?
    Or just create a custom box with a colour and ask what colour is it.
     
  11. Wombat

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    Did you know Xrumer can not only spam your forum but it can mass send private messages to every member of the forum?

    Ain't it great? :D
     
  12. Uptownbulker

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    Yeah, I think that you are right but don't be surprised about my refusal to use Xrumer and my animosity towards the program and its users. Very early in my internet experience I got botnetted and had to reformat my box which probably cost me a bundle in sales.

    I will ONLY mail fully compliant (And I'm not doing much of that anymore as it's just too much of a pain in the ass!) and would never, ever; not now, not EVER steal anybody's box or bandwidth.

    It just ain't right.

    Besides, there is little doubt in my mind that the FTC is going to rule on the use of Xrumer and and declare its use to be a violation of CAN-SPAM and I am waaaayyyyy too old to do one minute of time over a few forum postings and the odd buck that might be made from them.

    You can tell local fuzz to go pound sand and generally walk away clean unless they catch you literally holding the smoking gun, standing over a bleeding twitching corpse but when the Federalies get involved, it's a whole new ball game and the Feds make ALL the rules!

    Lemme make a long story short for you which will help you understand why I stay a legal as possible; don't get me wrong; I'll get close but I will not cross the line.

    A few years ago I was doin' deals in partnership with a few of the local Powers That Be in the town in which I lived at the time. Now these deals were all legal and above board if you shut one eye and squinted with the other while taking a look at them. Something went wrong and The Powers That WERE decided to make me a fall guy. I don't do "Fall Guy" well; it just ain't in my repetoire, so when I found myself charged with over TWENTY felonies, I told the local DA to go fuck himself and walked out on an OR bond.

    Well, they hit my house with a search warrant looking for documentation which was not at my house; it existed but it wasn't there and what with the Fifth Amendment and all, I was under no obligation to tell them where it was.

    Now you have to understand that the fuzz can find a way to charge little kids with crimes for operating a lemonade stand; health code, zoning, signage and employment violations, so this was a witch hunt but there were still over TWENTY felonies hanging around.

    The DA offered a deal..........plead to one FELONY and walk.

    I told my lawyer to tell the DA to go fuck himself, which the lawyer promptly did (Barely able to keep a straight face!).

    Well...for around 170 days we hear nothing and then the DA wants to schedule a preliminary hearing...I gave my lawyer a list of documents which he needed to subpoena from the OTHER GUYS for the preliminary.

    Continuance.

    No surprise there!

    I was later told that the DA (This was a small town!) couldn't go anyplace because he was constantly being accosted by people who didn't want to give up the documentation which I had subpoened.

    Well........................

    One day the DA calls my lawyer and ASKS if I would plead Nolo Contendre to two misdemeanor counts of lurking with intent to mope and pay a $500 fine.

    And leave town.

    I never forked over $500 so fast in my LIFE!

    Leaving town cost me $20K but I had MADE about $135K in the deals, so I was able to pay for the U-Haul and get a new place!

    But that one was waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too close, so I stay squeaky clean as far as stuff they understand and for the most part they do not understand the internet but when they do, they will start enacting all sorts of repressive and restrictive laws. They are trying now but not having much luck.

    There is NO reason to scam on the net; there is just too much good legal money to be made without scamming!

    Offshore is the key guys and gals.

    In the meantime, I shall follow your advice and endeavour to persevere.
     
  13. MaestroDelWeb

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    As soon as I got my bi-weekly - monthly reminder I had to search for this post and post on it. I'm not against XRumer and to be honest with you a few times I've considered buying it, but I know how you feel.

    I have a photo gallery site with pictures of my son from birth until now. It's been up since a few days after he was born, so it's been up for a few years. This site only has family pictures and pictures of him. I've never posted a link to the site anywhere. I only email it to friends and family or just tell them the site since it's a very easy to remember domain name (it's his name). I have it setup where any comments that are posted are immediately emailed to me. Every two weeks to a month I get about 10 emails saying I have new messages and in the email it tells me what these posts are. So every few weeks I have to login and delete all of the comments made by some cocksuckers about kiddy porn, bestiality, gay porn, tranvestite porn, standard porn, and all kinds of disgusting shit. They basically post links all over the place. The script is very easy to clean, I clean up the comments in under two minutes, but it's kind of fucked up that these assholes would post on a family picture gallery their gay and disgusting shit. It pisses me off sometimes but I've always been able to take care of it before any of the family sees it.

    My case isn't that bad since I believe it's just someone that comes on, registers and copies and pastes all of his comments. It doesn't seem to be an automated attack. If I could find the guy I would seriously whip his ass over disrespecting my son's site. I don't care if he spams all of my sites except when you mess with family sites that's crossing the line.
     
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  14. Yukinari84

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    this is a great thread. I am not personally against Xrumer, but I think that it's very wrong to abuse the program and just make a HUGE mess for someone to have to clean up. That's just just plain f*cking rude. and vze2yqtm,
    i hope you can find the person(s) that are disrespecting your son's site. They deserve a big ass kicking.
     
  15. Uptownbulker

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    Not to put too fine a point on it but I am coming to believe that all Xrumer users should be waterboarded, have their fingernails pulled out, interesting things with wires and electricity done to their genitals and be publicly pilloried, there to have feces and rotting veggies tossed at their miserable skulls.

    And that's to START!
     
  16. milligan

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    This is an interesting thread and puts a whole new spin on the reasons for not using Xrumer and similar to spam.

    I have been undecided about xrumer up until now, mostly because of the price. But I had never really thought about the more personal side of where the spam lands. I would be more than happy to spam other spammers sites but do not wish to deface someones personal site. I suppose you could take precautions to try and minimise this but as it is mass production some will slip through.

    Thanks to you guys I have now made my mind up about buying xrumer. I will stick to building my own network to spam. And Ill keep my money in my pocket.

    Whilst this is a BH forum we all differ in how far we will take something. I dont mind fucking with a corporate giant a little, nothing illegal though, but I dont want to damage another persons stuff, even if it is digital :)
     
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  17. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    What a COOL guy!
     
  18. MaestroDelWeb

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    To be honest with you I wouldn't have minded if it was spam for payday loans or something, even Viagra isn't that bad, but they post the most disgusting porn links out there (I'm talking about kiddy porn, bestiality, transexual, type things). It's an inconvenience cleaning stuff out, but I don't want to be a hypocrite and say all of the spam really pisses me off, it's just this weird shit on a baby's site that gets to me.
     
  19. Uptownbulker

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    I agree 100% and in NO WAY oppose compliant bulk commercial emailing!

    Or even some "less than compliant" mailing but NO botnetting, NO trojans, NO viruses, etc!
     
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    Agree bulk commercial emailing! is annoying to people who dont make money from spamming!!