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To all newbies dont listen to half the stuff you read

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by majikz10, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. majikz10

    majikz10 Registered Member

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    My advice to all newbies is don't listen to half the advice you hear go and try things your self.Theres a lot of hear say on all these forums.
     
  2. ber789

    ber789 Junior Member

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    Only the Jr VIP forums contain the truth. All other threads are misinformation. /joke
     
  3. AngelaRoberts11

    AngelaRoberts11 Regular Member

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    Yeah but you need to read/ understand basic things before taking action, most of the newbies don't know what is, for example, CPA and reading few thread, few methods, they know basics how to earn using their own twist, JUST saying ;)
     
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    How about you, the noob majikz10 ? Should I listen to your bullshit?
     
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  5. majikz10

    majikz10 Registered Member

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    Lol you can do what you want mate just my opinion to many people think there Seo gods.No one noes google apart from google!
     
  6. deepakmadhu

    deepakmadhu BANNED BANNED

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    lisen every thing .. and select that you like and take action
     
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  7. directaxcess

    directaxcess Power Member

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    "my advice to all the newbies" -- coming from a Newbie. Thanks man! I'm going to stop reading BHW now :)
     
  8. Lazlo1967

    Lazlo1967 Junior Member

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    There is a wealth of information on these forums - some good and some not so good. Almost all SEO advice is going to be hearsay. SEO is as much an art as science. Google is a black box, so we try various techniques to see what it will do. We learn over time and by comparing our successes and failures with what others have done. The key to this site (or any information about SEO) is to determine which information is good and which not so good. Of course, this particular post is excellent :D
     
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    marusia Senior Member

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    That's with life in general though, not just internet marketing. You should never believe 100% of what you hear, see, or read. Think for yourself.
     
  10. mangobuddy

    mangobuddy BANNED BANNED

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    Totally Agree with you. All the things are not good for everyone.
     
  11. macdonjo3

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    Newbies on here believe 0%, so they just make another thread.
     
  12. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    Read everything you can. Take note of the themes that are coming up all the time and investigate. Dont waste your time with the $5000 in 7 days crap that's more suited to wf. Learn to do the job right and learn new things by trying them out yourself.

    Did I mention read everything.
     
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    digitaldesignz Newbie

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    true!
     
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    redclover BANNED BANNED

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    I can say the information here is great. So maybe newbies should pay more
    attention :D Then apply their own twist to things.
     
  15. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    The problem is that you don't know which half to read and no one teaches how to sort the chaff. That is why these forums are so important.

    Focus on one thing at a time until you know what you are doing, take to heart any 5 star postings in the forum here that apply to your niche, and ask specific, not general questions in the forums.

    That and getting off your ass will help you succeed.
     
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  16. BigMoneyJr

    BigMoneyJr Newbie

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    Exactly! Great post my man.
     
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    I disagree with this. Onpage SEO is cut and dried. If you do certain things the way search engines expect, they will figure out what you page is about. That is the single most important thing about any pages SEO, and most people do not have a good page focus.

    If your page is about rebuilding a carb for a Harley motorcycle, but the search engines think it is a page about rebuilding motorcycle carbs, in general, the traffic coming in will be across the broad match and not convert. People looking for Harley help will not see your page, and someone wanting general info will find a page about a specific motorcycle that probably they do not own.

    You may get lots of traffic, but people will arrive at your site looking for something that is bnot there, exactly. They will probably leave.

    Any page you have on your site where the traffic stats tell you people are arriving staying only a few seconds and leaving is off on the SEO (unless you built a crappy page). Your visitors came by expecting something, didn't see it so they leave. If your SEO is right they will stay long enough to read the page.

    Watch your bounce rate, improve every chance you get.

    That is not heresay, its a fact.
     
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  18. Lazlo1967

    Lazlo1967 Junior Member

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    I think you just proved my point. How do we know what to do with onpage SEO? We tried different things, compared notes (not formally, but people posted what they discovered) and came to conclusions. However, it is still a bit of an art. In your example above, should my title tag read "Rebuilding Harley carbs", "Carburetor rebuilding for Harleys", "Harley motorcycle carb rebuilding"... The science comes in when we systematically try each of those tags to see which works best.
     
  19. majikz10

    majikz10 Registered Member

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    ^^Spot on
     
  20. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    I think you missed my point. The rules of onpage SEO are not hearsay.

    With onpage SEO there are concrete rules. You need a title tag. Yes you have to finesse the tag, but omitting it is counter productive to good SEO. This is a fact carved in stone, not hearsay. You can try anything you want to in an attempt to avoid using the title tag, but if you use it your SEO will be stronger.

    I have looked a literally thousands of websites (used to work for lionbridge rating suites) you would be astonished how many sites have no meta information at all, or site wide blanket statements.

    You can rank most small business websites on the top half of the front page of google with on page SEO alone. You do not have to finesse anything, just put the right information in the right spot. If you find an unnoticed niche keyword, you can do the same.

    But if you do not follow the specific rules of on page SEO, it will not rank. You can push traffic at it, but it will not rank.
     
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