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Tired of this bullsh*t! What's wrong with BHW link building services?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by rokot, Sep 1, 2019.

  1. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    If any seller posts more than once every 24 hours in response to questions or comments in their thread, or promotes inside that thread more than once every 72 hours please hit the report button.

    Straight from the rules:

    What you cannot do and how to get around it:

    1. Promote your Sales thread more than once every 72 hours, this includes putting an advert or coupon style text underneath your response to a question or responding to an order confirmation.

    In short you can not promote in any way your Sales Thread more than once every 72 hours.

    2. You must not respond to individual order confirmations, try and group the responses together in one post or at the end of each day.

    3. The same as 2 for answering questions, try and group as many as you can in one response. If you are seen to be responding to individual questions a lot in one day this will be seen as Bumping. You can avoid this by sending a PM to the customer who asked the question and then at the end of the day publicly respond to all the questions in one response.

    4. Do not respond with "Thank You" use the thank you button for this.
     
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  2. roman375

    roman375 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    That has nothing to do with what he is asking.
     
  3. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Sure looked like to me... if he is talking about off site nothing we can do about it but if he is talking in the thread that was the impression I got from his question.

    Perhaps you can explain so I can respond properly.
     
  4. roman375

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    He is talking about the links being blasted in a single day as opposed to being drip fed, which is what the seller is advertising.
     
  5. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    This goes below every approval that @Zwielicht, @WilhelmScream and I do so if the buyer is seeing that then he or she needs to use the report button so we can investigate and get it fixed.

    For Buyers: The quality of the product or service that I receive is what you should expect, or better. If you feel that the quality of the service has dropped significantly, please let us know via the report button.
     
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  6. ContentExpert

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    Would probably be a good idea for that to go below "every" Mod's approval comment.
     
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  7. BassTrackerBoats

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    We have actually expanded it to the following:

    For Buyers: The quality of the product or service that I receive is what you should expect, or better. If you feel that the quality of the service has dropped significantly, please let us know via the report button.

    For Buyers Regarding Disputes: If you do not receive a product or service as advertised, or at all in the event of a dispute, do not be afraid of a "no refunds" refund policy as you are allowed to request a refund through the shit list process. For more information and to see whether or not your dispute qualifies, refer to the shit list rules and procedures.
     
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  8. Sherb

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    I believe @ContentExpert was not referring to the context of what the message was (thank you for adding this refund policy related information by the way), but instead the other Marketplace Moderator who does not utilize that "For Buyers" message in their reviews.
     
  9. PHPInjected

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    This is how this thread has been going:

    Buyers: HEY WTF, WE'RE BEING SCAMMED. THIS IS BULLSHIT. FIX THE MARKETPLACE.

    Moderators: We understand your frustration. Could you please report the threads and leave negative reviews on those threads so that it gets proper attention and can be monitored?

    Buyers: WHAT?! WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO DO EXTRA WORK. YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW. ALL SELLERS WITH SUB-PAR SERVICES SHOULD BE BANNED!

    Moderators: That's not really a coherent & amicable solution. There's a process to follow when it comes to that, could you please follow the report system?

    Buyers: WOOWWW, MODERATORS ARE IN ON THE SCAM. BHW MP IS TRASH.


    Just wanted to add something small here. If you follow the system, things can get accomplished here on the forum. I've seen that first hand on the forum many times in the 5 years that I've been here.

    Good luck to both buyers and sellers.

    You've been here all of 4 days. A lot of guest accounts sure are coming out of the wood works. Though, I guess buyers can buy services without being logged into an account.
     
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  10. rokot

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    Here it is:
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  11. IamNRE

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    I have to agree with the majority on this one...

    Most of the sellers here are providing low quality shit for the highest profit possible. Its a damn shame.
     
  12. oscilay

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    Humm.. not sure what people expect when paying for "lady gaga links"... sometimes I feel like I m on the wrong forum.
     
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  13. p0is0nd4rt

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    I appreciate i'm new here, but i've been in ecomm for 10yrs+, and even i was tempted by sakars seo packages. they look authentic, esp with all the reviews. glad i found this thread lol

    i guess it's true what they say, if it seems too good to be true ...
     
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    But I like lady gaga. I thought she'd give me strong ranking. :(
     
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  15. furfing

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    One more time, it's crazy to see people believing a "service" could rank a site.

    In 2019 ranking a site is a long term process where each link has it's value.

    Guest posting, citations, this is it, building an honest relationship with bloggers, influencers.

    When you buy a lady gaga or whatever dodgy link building scheme you are just building a dodgy link profile in the eyes of Google.

    Just check the top-ranking sites in your niche, I defy anyone here to find the pattern that any of the package /services here is leaving... Of course, I can rank with those packages a site with low competition keyword in an unprofitable niche.

    The fact is if you want to build something sustainable you shouldn't be lazy and do not believe that you can click and rank a site.

    Consider your site as your business, would let your business in the hand of a stranger promising you to make it successful with some automated strategies ???
     
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  16. HiPurple

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    Guess it turned out to be a Bad Romance.
     
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  17. p0is0nd4rt

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    this is fundamental but easy to lose sight of when you’re desperate.

    I’ve had cheap seo guys from freelancer work on our site. I’ve had agencies who charge $2k a month work on our site. And each and every one had let me down with out fail.

    don’t put your faith in anyone else. No one else is as vested in your business as you are.
     
  18. pravinlpatel

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    This is one of this informative thread on BHW to know marketplace insight. Helped me to save $$$ and directing to invest $$$ where it should be.

    Thanks everyone who all are part of this thread.
     
  19. furfing

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    I think there is a strong myth on forums and BHW that SEO is complicated and that somehow someone else knows better than any other.

    People ranking sites and making big bucks out of it are not on forums sharing link pyramid strategy or Sarkar Kumar Lady Gaga Service.

    Owner of a million-dollar website or even small website owner running a small but profitable website are focused on their content, build up a personal relationship with the owner of the service they promote. They manually outreach each of their top competitor links and try everything they can to get those links. Those people work hard. They focus. They thrive to do a great job. They produce great content. They keep optimizing their site, run A/B testing etc...

    I am sure not a single guy ordering a "service" has actually a great website. A great website is not a 20-page website, it shall be the absolute reference about your topic with outstanding content.

    I feel a reality check is needed here as i really feel sad to see people spending hundreds of dollar on such scam links scheme...

    It's 2020 ! SEO is not about links, it's about Great Content, Authority which is pushed up by niche relevant links. If you wonder which anchor you should put on your link and ready to press the buy button of a link building service, better you stop your venture there, you are going to go nowhere.
     
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  20. GregFromMoonsy

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    Strange discussion and arguments.
    Because it is pretty clear, that MOD or SUPERMOD will receive the best service from seller.

    So, how buyer can know when the quality of service falls, when he don't have ability to compare ?
    Also, if a linking site looks pretty nice - it not mean automatically that links from such site have any power.

    I believe that on BHW exists honest sellers, but they not will sell nothing, because reputation of such services will be destroyed.
    Get a look at Google how they banning all the people who trying play with Adsense system for the trust and reputation reason.

    I hate all the sellers who trying make the money on those who haven't enough knowledge to understand that they purchasing a useless shit.
    Such sellers exactly know that their service is not worth more than snow from the last year.

    My 3 cents.
    Cheers, Greg.
     
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