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Tired of this bullsh*t! What's wrong with BHW link building services?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by rokot, Sep 1, 2019.

  1. socialhacks

    socialhacks Junior Member

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    I also bought from aka_sam, low quality and my website SEO dropped 50% after a few months. I only used his service, no other link building.
     
  2. PHPInjected

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    I’m getting there. I hope you’re doing well, as well.

    I think both parties are at fault.

    The seller for selling trash and the buyer for not doing due diligence/reporting the shitty sales threads.
     
  3. LongestSpider

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    It's not a theory, it's international copyright law which is guarding the internet, ignore it at your perill.

    Clearly, from Blackhatworld Rules, as quoted below, copyright infringement on the forum is a big NO

    USA laws applies according to the terms of service, and DMCA is complied to.

    You can twist and turn, I my opinion I've proven my case according to BHW Terms of Service.
     
  4. DubaiClub

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    Sorry but only 1 part is in fault: the seller.

    Please note, you recognize the shit when you are skilled.

    When you know SEO, when you've seen/worked on several projects, when you are a professional.

    It is not an excuse: buyer have to do his due diligence.

    A buyer can do all the due diligence he wants but if he is not a professional SEO guy he can't do that.

    The problem is that seller advertise FALSE products! You can not advertise FALSE products and say "Hey I sell shit that can destroy your site BUT I sell it like the #1 seo package in the world. If you are not (yet) able to recognize this shit it is your problem. NOT mine that I write FALSE promises. It is your problem".

    Really? Someone can advertise false promises/shits and the problem is on the buyer side? LOL.
     
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  5. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I'm assuming you have proof that the seller(s), nor I with my username, do not have permission to use the content or images?

    Please post that proof.
     
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    These services dont work . As simple as that. I have seen it over the last ten years. It is simply a business for all those who offer them. That's why there is no service which stays up in the long term.
     
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    So, is the onus on the prosecution to prove guilt or the defense to prove innocence?

    By default, the seller should have proven to BHW staff that he has the rights to use those images.

    His thread shouldn't have been approved unless he could prove the has the rights from the appropriate copyholders.

    Pirates of the Caribbean is not copyrighted?
    Dr House? The Rock?
     
  8. Abdullah Prem

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    Oh, really thanks for the research man, this help many to stop buying..
     
  9. BassTrackerBoats

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    Again, do you have proof that the seller(s) or myself do not have the permission to use material?
     
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  10. Jayder

    Jayder Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    This is sooo beyond the point of this thread.

    And besides that, its BLACKHATworld. We're no saints here.
     
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    Yeah, no. That’s the most absurd, lack of responsibility response in this thread.

    It’s not a buyers responsibility to research and pay attention to what he’s buying? That’s a very poor mindset to have.

    I never said “it’s cool to advertise false promises”, so do not just spin my response to fit your point.

    The responsibility is on the seller to properly represent his product and produce something of quality.

    The responsibility is also on the buyer to research the seller and vet their service to make sure they’re getting what’s advertised, and IF NOT to post on the thread letting other buyers know what kind of service is being offered along with their experience with it.

    It’s pretty simple.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your experience is really important to know more about BHT offers.
     
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    A community problem - we need to start being more honest in reviews and hold sellers accountable for their services.

    If quality does drop or wasn't there in the first place, we need to find out why.
     
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    Hello sarkar,

    I am definitely not your friend but a concerned member of this forum. An abundance of orders is proof of nothing more than that you have gotten your advertiser dollars out of our newbies here at BHW. The techniques you use may have been successful at some point in your marketing career. However, so was straight blasting your money site with Xrumer. I think it is telling that the reply you wrote to use was so long it is unquotable and in the same format as a sales page. That is ridiculous, talk like a normal human being and not spew sales copy all over the page. An even bigger joke is comparing yourself to Steve Jobs. You are not Steve Jobs, you are the guy selling knockoff replica iPhones on craigslist and then running away before they realize it is a iPanda phone loaded with keylogger to steal your bank details.

    Thanks but no thanks.
     
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  15. Roger Marquez

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    Maybe in an ideal world, this can be the case but in the real world, unfortunately, this just won´t happen. What this community needs in order to fix/filter those and many other issues with the marketplace for future customers is to set up an Escrow system and reviews made by verified customers only.

    Setting up an escrow could easily be another source of income for the forum and I am sure many marketplace customers won´t have an issue paying a bit more in order to secure their purchase.

    Been offering services over on Upwork and I just love how they set up everything. I had issues at first with their 5 days waiting period in order to withdraw but looking at it from the customers perspective it´s just a great way to protect buyers giving them enough time to file either a complaint or request a refund.

    Also, you are forced to leave feedback and comment on the service you just purchase within the next 14 days after the contract is over. Not only about the quality of the service per se but also about other aspects of the service like customer support.

    One thing I see it´s missing from the marketplace here I do see on Upwork as well are some key metrics in order to filer apart shitty services from high-quality ones like the number of projects completed, a number of projects ending prematurely, 5-star rating, Job success %, and so on.

    Here, sellers can just pay the forums to get their BST "sticked" at the top of the marketplace feed. As a customer, I just don´t like that.

    Lastly, even considering all the issues i still believe BHW marketplace it´s beyond any other marketing forum marketplace on the internet. Surely ahead of Fiverr and SEOclerks that are freelancing platforms.
     
  16. AmRyanThomas

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    you cant buy a horse for the cost of a donkey .....
     
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  17. Nova90

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    This was a great read, nice put together too. But honestly, I've come to learn this place is a bit like Fiverr- if you buy the cheap services you're more than likely going to get burned.
     
  18. Ozzyzig

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    This may make me sound as though I've got a tin foil hat on, but looking at the photos from @sarkark21 the order forms are going to his Gmail account.
    Given that the buggers at Google can pair up that shit (including tailoring the ads to what you've looked at) I wouldn't be happy with receipts for link building services dropping into an inbox that they can glean data from.

    Also, welcome back @t0mmy
     
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  19. yakuzaemme

    yakuzaemme Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hahaha - nice catch.
     
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    The way I looked at it, if you're not getting fucked with your money being taken for rubbish links, Google will slap you anyway for buying them.
     
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