I play both sides of the fence, as I'm sure we all do. I have extremely white hat sites and I have some sites with considerable amounts of spam. I'm getting tired of having to explain to my clients why their competitors who are using lots of outdated link spam tactics are outranking them. So I'm wondering if I can ask for some help.... I see LOTS of sites ranking which started linkspam campaigns back in April/May. The Majestic SEO link history on all these looks the same...a couple thousand links right in the beginning...then NOTHING. And they're still ranking even post penguin 2.0. Even with very over optimized anchors. some of them look to be mostly Xrumer profiles (or some other software creating profile spam). Some are probably SAPE or some other network (footer and sidebar links on Russian/chinese/etc sites), and then there are a bunch of blog network posts. Does anyone know of or have a service that does BULK blog network submissions? And by Bulk I don't mean 200 posts for $500....I'm looking for 1,000 posts or more to get 1,000 or more linking root domains. I don't want to publicly out a network, but I see one that is pretty effective. So if you PM me, I'll share. But it's a pretty spammy looking network with a very obvious footprint...still indexed. And posts are still going to it. Sites are still outranking me. I'm on a mission to rank a low quality affiliate doorway page (trying to duplicate what I'm seeing). If you PM me and want to figure this out together I'm open to share what I see...kw's, domains, full link reports, etc. Are any of you having success with huge blog networks similar to ALN still? I'm seeing these types of links STILL being built to sites that are STILL ranking very well. any help would be appreciated.