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tips for noobs who want to buy services

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by CosmicSoundz, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. CosmicSoundz

    CosmicSoundz BANNED BANNED

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    check out all the comments. Then look at the details of the person who is saying they (purchased) the BST. Look at those with really low post count with a very old start date.

    then look at their post history. Lets say they have 20 posts. 10 of them were the first day they signed up or first week. The other 10 were ALL on the same BST.

    what does this mean. It means the seller has multiple accounts and posting on his own bst to make it look like its a "hot" item to buy.



    Also something to think about.

    If you have a gold mine keyword and website idea, why on earth would you give that info away to someone who has the ability to create their own site and use their own tools to out rank you. Its not like these BST guys sign a NDA with you. You bet your ass they will steal your idea if its a good one.
     
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  2. proxygo

    proxygo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    so lets say my 3 sales threads going back 5 yrs with at least
    6-800 sales 0 refunds are you saying inherent with bhw
    there's a chance some of my sales and feed back are fake
    not everyone on bhw is a fake .
     
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  3. VinceC

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    I do notice there are bst with many newbies posting the reviews too. It happen everywhere and some even offer free service to exchange for reviews before selling their service.
     
  4. BrianKade001

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    Unfortunately, there are some sellers on BHW who have posts from guys who have just joined and in the next minute or so, their next post is on a BST something like this, "Ordered so and so. . Payment id : Bla Bla". And, this doesn't happens once. If you go through their thread, then you can easily find at least 3-4 accounts who have 0 posts outside the BST and are never seen except when they are commenting on the BST. I had made a list of such BST sellers and such BHW accounts, but it makes no sense to spoil someone's business when you can't prove your point properly. Moreover, I don't like taking enmity with people. Some people have BST's as their sole source of income, so I don't want ruin it. Many members have Multiple accounts or are previously banned members, so unless mods have clear cut proof against the concerned person nothing much can be done.

    Anyways, such a thread has been started in past, just that it was having detailed information and pointers.

    PS: No Disrespect to anyone. I am not accusing anyone nor do I want to. Just presenting a plain truth, which most of us know already.
     
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  5. BrianKade001

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    With all respect, OP faltered there clearly. He made a loose and generic statement, which is wrong. In my view, he just wanted to say that there are people who post fake reviews by creating new accounts and one should be wary of them. This doesn't imply that every other BST seller is using fraudulent means to get reviews.
     
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  6. Kimi

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    Report that one and the problem is solved.

    I think it's the second accusation that I see in last days, first one was to mods having multiple accounts and this one it seems adressed to all sellers. Why do people like to talk shit?
     
  7. CosmicSoundz

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    I never said YOU. I said sellers. Not everyone does this tactic but its definitely being done. Props to those who dont use shady sales tactics.


     
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  8. CosmicSoundz

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    Hey guys I am not blaming anyone. I am just giving good advice to those who might not know any better. Small tips like this can save a lot of trouble.
     
  9. Junkfood00

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    Yes, you have to be cautious with everything. Just because someone acquired vip for $97 and got his sales thread approved doesn't mean he's completely legit. Even the most reputable members have been caught cheating in the past.
     
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  10. jakeparker

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    You can expect that just about anywhere. Especially in a blackhat community. The only difference between doing it on this type of forum versus others is being called out by allot of other smart and intelligent people that are in this community. Getting called out will kill your sales thread, waist your $97/donation, and a waste of time.

    It may get them a few quick bucks but won't get them far.
     
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  11. CosmicSoundz

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    Ive seen this done on the most reputable members BST's. Its right in front of your face. If you are aware of it, its really easy to see.
     
  12. trustedfire9

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    OP i will answer your question why i sell (since i have authority sites sale thread) why i don't use that sites for myself ?
    simply I'm building sites for myself but need money to add unique quality content and to seo it so the income from
    it isn't instant , when selling ready sites you get instant money to invest it in your sites .

    this is why reputed members open sales threads .
     
  13. CosmicSoundz

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    I never asked a question. I simple gave out some good advice.

     
  14. Duffers5000

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    Theres lots of reasons why an seo professional would go for a bst. Yes they have their own sites and their own blue chip clients etc, but they also have staff-servers and huge monthly bills for software-captchas-proxies etc. The busier they are the tighter they can keep thir costs.

    You should research what sort of service you need for your site. Target the bsts that are offering that service and ask the sellers pertinent questions.

    Only deal with a seller if you are happy that they give a shit about your custom and you have looked at their samples and decided it looks good.

    Dont be scared to pm a few of the people on the thread that have purchased the service. Ive had pms from people saying "hi I noticed you bought this package ...would you recommend it" Dont be scared to ask questions, most people are here to help.

    Once you know what you are getting and you order the service make sure you are happy with the service you receive. If not go back to the seller and explain your unhappiness. Any decent seller wants happy customer and will do his best to put things right. If they dont then request a refund(shouldnt come to that)

    Worst thing you can do is go in to a bst not knowing what you are buying and what the service is trying to acheive. Dont buy the "wiki-panda slayer-triple-index-mushroom-linkwheel" because its sounds good. ask exactly what that all means and look up the purpose of the links being provided.
     
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  15. CosmicSoundz

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    excellent advice Duffers.
     
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  16. TwistedSEO

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    Even members which decent reputation need to be looked at closely. Just today I saw a BST thread from a fairly reputable VIP member selling SAPE links. I was interested but then I remembered the username from somewhere. I pulled up an old thread where this person posted. However, It was deleted from bhw but still available in google's cache.

    I pulled it up from google's cache and found that the person selling the SAPE links posted just 2 weeks earlier saying "In my experience sape has done nothing but harm to my sites. Remember these links can easily be reported, so if you create these links > Your competitor see them > They report you to google > Manual review > Penalty." I'm not going to post any names but beginners really need to be careful when ordering from BST, regardless of who is selling it or what kind of reviews its getting.

    A lot of the positive reviews that people leave are usually done right after they get that initial boost. Buyers rarely ever come back 1-2 months later to report that their site sunk and leave a negative review. So be extra careful of what you're buying and always question everything. Don't just look at reviews. Warriorforum is a great example of how meaningless reviews can be. Hordes of sheep posting great reviews even though 90% of the WSOs are crap.
     
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  17. CosmicSoundz

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    Also not to mention no one really wants to publicly give bad reviews. I mean the BST seller knows your info. No one wants to get on their bad side especially someone doing blackhat SEO for you.


    and your right. I hardly ever see reviews with results. Its always a review right when reports are received.
     
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  18. Leith

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    100% agreed with you. I will not post names but that member is one big hypocrite. If anyone orders SAPE links from anyone on this forum, take a look at their past threads/posts and pick the seller you deem fit. Don't pick a seller who absolutely despises what they're selling, but sells it anyway to make money. I provide my services because I love providing and operating services in general. Ever since I was young, I had a passion of having a service and helping others, of course, for money, but my main aim was helping others with my business and it is that sheer motivation which has kept me going for years.

    The point of my message is this. Let me give you an example. If you decide to buy SAPE links, then there are tons of sellers on this forum. This next step will only take 20 seconds. Click their profile name and read their past comments and posts. Don't buy from a seller who sells a service which they talk about negatively. What's the point in that? To summarize, buy from a seller who enjoys what they sell and is enthusiastic about it. Don't buy from those who think negatively of what they are selling, but sell it anyway to make money.
     
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  19. Furious George

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    Also check out the reputation, age, and post history of the people posting the comments. From what I can see, several people have been caught inflating their itrader scores.
     
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  20. iknowjack

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    I agree with OP, i actually didnt read entired thread but i read 1st and last op post, and most of his points i also find true