Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by flexnds, Apr 3, 2014.
big reason i am leaving the net more and more each day....too much B*S* involved.
You, of course, posted under your real name, RIGHT? Now why don't I believe that you posted under your real name or that you posted documentation of your claim.
Your second sentence says it all: you were angry that you were fired, and you posted on ROR as an act of revenge.
YEAH..TYPICAL. Angry little worm can't make $1 so spends all week on blogs, forums ripoffreport etc writing sh** for revenge.
I'd hate to run a RESTAURANT/HOTEL THESE DAYS. ONE ***and your business could be ruined.Typical of the Internet. Can't be found can write what they want. So they do.
Free speech is one thing, Libel and defamation is another. This is not a moral/immoral issue, this is a legal issue.
Its one thing to have a genuine complaint and it serves a purpose for the public AND the business for identifying opportunities and using them to improve their product and service, on the other hand much of the content is down right false. Either created by the site owners themselves or by "reputation management" companies who then email you 3 days later alerting you of the report and promising to get it removed for several thousand dollars.
We have a couple of complaints on the site and each time it is false, they claimed certain things that I knew were a lie. Just as an example say we sold Honda Transmission parts, the complaint was claiming our Radiators were crap... When I point out we dont sell radiators they come back and say we are lying, LOL! Its a clear and blatant lie and anyone who bothers to check will see that. If they just take the report at face value then we may lose a sale. Its a clear attempt at Fraud or at the least Libel and defamation.
These are techniques that those with little talent employ, they cannot be bothered (or are incapable) of starting a real business providing a good and quality product so instead they build their business around hurting others and attempting to profit on it.
Thankfully it has not hurt us much if at all since we pulled down almost half a million is sales last month. That still does not mean that these bogus reports dont piss me off, they do and they should have their feet to the fire for publishing unverifiable complaints.
So how is this allowed?
It's a joke. On the Net you let some of the most depraved, emotionally disturbed people free reign. No-one would give them the time of day in the real world. It's like letting the lunatic asylum run the TV networks.
They should at least have every poster fully verify their name and address and say something like
"Any false and slanderous comments might result in legal proceedings"
Then it'll drop off 95%+ but at least people posting will have the conviction what they are saying is the truth.
in theory it's a good idea....but it's been ruined and does not work. So they should either tighten up considerably or get the **** out!
Nothing wrong with free speech or to express opinions even if they are wrong! But to state something as a fact that is a lie in order to hurt a competitor or profit from removal of the complaint is not free speech, its a calculated attempt to profit based on a lie. We cannot lie to a consumer in order to sell our product, that is fraud, others should not be able to lie about our product in order to attempt to compel us to buy their Rep Management products, or pay to remove the complaint or in order to pimp their own similar product.
Lets step away from business for a second, for you free speech types. If a group of people, including lawyers, police officers and school teachers started accusing you publicly, online of being a child molester how do you think that will affect you? Do you still consider that free speech? Would you be ok with your clients, family members, employers, pastor and friends seeing this information? Are you prepared to defend yourself against these accusations against you?
I doubt it, instead you would probably pursue those making those false claims against you, and rightfully so! No different for a business.
Its one thing to post and say "I bought this product and I dont think it performs as well as xyz" or "I find this product too pricey for what I got" its another to go to great lengths to fabricate a lie and detail the cost, the shipping process, the customer service interaction all which never happened in the 1st place.
hhhmmmmmm i was actually agreeing with you?
I know, I was just adding to your post.
end of the day anyone with an IQ the size of a brick can post anything they want on the net and that's a disaster.
Rip off report should be sued $1,000+ for every false post....then they'll change.
I love those ripoff reports about freelancer.com why will i report them ?
so if someone wrote something that was a complete lie about you/your company....you'd be fine with that?
Personally, i have never been on that site but i can imagine it's a trolls treasure chest.
It is, I just got an email from a "rep management company" referencing the year old bogus report. The grammar was poor, it was sent from a Gmail address and the spelling was terrible. I thought for 1 second to reply and talk to him about his professionalism, then I decided that with that email he will likely get 0 customers so I was not about to help him.
Rip off report is really a battleground with the competition. I wonder how many "genuine" reports are on their?!
That piece of shit website needs to be destroyed. A competitor can submit a false claim and the small business owner has two choices. Either leave the complaint up there or pay $2,000 for an "arbitrator."
This is disgusting.
The owner of that site looks like he's infested with fleas. http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtan...or-hate-it-ripoffreport-is-in-expansion-mode/
Certain examples of defamation are not covered under free speech. Examples of free speech "Robin slept with hundreds of men. I bet she has aids." "God hates Robin because she slept with men." (Westboro Baptist Church wins lawsuits this way because hate speech is covered if it is not libel.) What is not covered under free speech is "Robin gave aids to four men" (if it's not true) which is on ripoffreport.com right now.
I agree with you. But... I'm all for free speech, but ripoffreport.com has nothing to do with free speech, even if they claim to. Rip Off Report is simply providing a forum for people to say what they want. That is why they have never lost a lawsuit. If you said that I made you a sapphire necklace and all the sapphires fell out, that would be a lie because I didn't make you one. People are going after Rip Off Report when they should be going after the person who made the false claim. Although even with the police involved, it's easier said than done to track down the person who made the false claim. I doubt that they would put that much effort into libel unless the victim had a very expensive high powered lawyer who wouldn't quit. Only then would a judge force ripoffreport.com to take down the lie.
Ripoffreport allowed me to expose a very large company which wouldve never been possible offline, what i did was told exactly what happened and thats how it should be if big companys have a problem with it then they should spend some of their millions of dollars defending themselves. Ripoffreport made my day because in a week or two my posting about the company made it to the first page of google just by typing in the companys name talk about revenge yeah i said it REVENGE!
That's fine and good but did you post under your real name? ^^
IF not...why not?
So what? There's a woman whose name comes up on the first page of google, and when the link is clicked on, it says that she gave aids to four men. As long as your day was made, I guess it doesn't matter that her life is ruined .
Separate names with a comma.