Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by flexnds, Apr 3, 2014.
It 's called irony. I guess I was expecting too much...
I'm done with BHW.. When mods harass you there is something wrong. I'll be cancelling my JR. Vip renewal as well due to Jazzc.
Please don't do that, thats what your fighting for with your campaign for ripoffreport. Don't let the noob wind you up
are you serious ? I don't think jazzc can harass anyone.
Are we already in the part where you cry a river?
Did you really think that while you have the right to express your opinion, I am supposed to round mine just because you don't like it?
This isn't the first time JazzC has personally attacked me. He has nothing better to do. And due to his position as a mod there is nothing I can do. I'm tired of his negativity. I'm perfectly fine with someone disagreeing with me, but he takes to another level. I refuse to be surrounded by negativity or negative people. I pride myself on not name calling or talking sh*t behind people's backs. But this guys is pushing my limits.
JazzC - As a mod I would think of all people you would be the first to lend constructive criticism.. You are impossible to talk to or have a convo with.
I don't recall but if you say so I won't disagree on that.
Perhaps I could sign a petition to ban free speech instead, like you proposed.
Bullshit. I use words, you use words. It never amazes me that this is the common epilogue to all crybabies "omg, I 'd crush him with my arguments but he 's a mod, boo hoo, I 'll let him slide this time". Well, here 's some news. I never ever debate with the username. I debate as a person. I would have been a complete fool if I ever thought to abuse the trust this position entails. And over what? Because someone on the internet is wrong? You have to be crazy to think that.
I 'll take that as a compliment
My web is on tht web too. Damn. I scam people for $4.00? facepalm.
I don't particularly like ripoffreport but some people don't like to hear the truth either. It's too easy to slander and libel people on the internet. There needs to be a happy medium.
I have to thank both flexnds and jazzc. Your discussion (???) just made my night. opcorn:
I know it might sound like I'm trying to get a brown tongue, but I'll just say it anyways. It's really a pleasure reading you debating, jazzc. You've an ability to bring it to a whole other level where I wouldn't dare to compete, and it looks like I'm not the only one left speechless. I often find myself not in agreement with your opinions (not this time though), but it really is a pleasure being the spectator.
I'll definitely keep this one in mind, I love it:
Edit: Oh, and since I'm a hypocrite, I'll go ahead and sign your petition OP. It sounds like a very damaging website.
well said jazzc
You know JazzC, I do not like you. The only thing I ever see you do is attack people, including me. I will grant that I have never seen you abuse <strike>a person</strike> <edit>your position as a moderator</edit> for returning your attack viciously, including me.
Now that the mess is out of the way, let us move on.
I can understand your position regarding free speech. There is, however, a line of demarcation between free speech and slander. Magedsons sites, Rip Off Report, and Bad Business Bureau cross this line constantly. Magedson hides behind section 230 C of the cable decency act. I have also personally spoken with Mageson on a few occasions. I think he is a bigger dick than you. However, in the instances that I spoke with Mageson, I was covering for and taking the heat for one of his posters, protecting that person because the person had been threatened by an attorney after Magedson sold the information to the attorney for about $10,000. If you doubt this claim, I will be more than happy to PM you a link where you can view the letter from Mark Gary Epstein of Mugshots.com, I have changed the name and address of the person that the letter was mailed to though. In this case, Magedson realized that he had sold a friend out and I was doing what I could to protect that friend because it is a common to both of us.
Magedson may believe in what he does, however there is a problem that he allows unverified content, and then charges between $1,500 and $10,000 to review that content. Afterwards, he charges the business or person $1,500 to <s>10,000</s> 50,000 [/edit] a month to monitor and demote other negative content. This is called the Corporate Advocacy Program.
Giving Magedson's side, which I do not believe, he believes that if a person under numerous pseudonyms, posts negative material, it will become obvious that it is bull.
Giving the business side of the issue, the unverified negative content, even when the business pays Magedson and Magedson says the article is false, harms the business. This occurs because people, by human nature, are more inclined to believe negative/false/fruadulent content than they are to believe truthful positive content. This means that when some petulant and peevish person writes a negative comment on ROR because they could not return a product without proof of purchase, a product that was more than likely shoplifted from the business in the first place, the casual reader that is not familiar with Magedson's operation reads the negative review, that person is more than likely to go to another business.
You also should know of Magedsons background. In the 70's Magedson was arrested in Florida, USA for drugs. It is pretty ugly after that, including several con man scams in New York and California.
I would also like to point out to you that another site that specializes in negative content had their stock drop today after the FTC released a report that the FTC is investigating them. That site is Yelp.
heh, people take the Internet debates so seriously
It's great ORM sales material. "People are saying this and more about your business. Lets start with cleaning up your reviews on Google Places."
I know someone on here who replicated that site and made a quick $8k or so.
Fuck you. Nothing should be taken down or removed from SE.
There is no way to do like that.May be thats your idea.
I totally disagree with this thread! Reason being is a few years back I got fired from a job for something I believe wasn't my fault and I didn't have but one voice to speak up for me and let others know what happened and terrible company they were, that company was ripoffreport so although you may not like them there are many others like myself who feel like they serve a very good purpose online. So why the hell would I sign a petition for someone that is doing a lot of good? Look at bhw they certainly aren't ethical, thats right I said it and you know i'm right, the problem with this world is there are too many hypocrites out here.
^^you miss the whole point. So because it served you well it's fine? Idiot.
Free speech my ******.
Do they actually verify anything written? No they do not. So anyone can say anything about a business/person and they simply let it be posted.
And you know the Net...if you don't make someone rich with them doing no work or don't answer email within 1 hour = scam and then the trolls join in. IDIOTS!
I wonder how many legit businesses/ people have been ruined by complete and utter B*S*? Only on the |Net is this sh** allowed.
100% agreed. You know most people don't care if something written is 100% a lie.....they still believe it.
Separate names with a comma.