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[TikTok] How To DOMINATE The "For You" Page!

Discussion in 'General Social Chat' started by aRodeo, Aug 30, 2019.

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Will you be using TikTok?

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  1. aRodeo

    aRodeo Newbie

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    Some have been saying that TikTok may overtake Instagram, so I thought this post may be useful to some.

    If you don't know, the "For You" page is a lot similar to Instagram's Explore page and YouTube's recommendation system. In fact, it works a lot like YouTube's system.

    I have done some research on how TikTok's are recommended in the For You page, and I have noticed a pattern.

    When you post a video to TikTok, they will randomly & temporarily put you on the For You page and give you around 300-500 views. They use this data in order to determine whether you will put into the For You page again. There are 2 factors on whether they will put you on the For You page again: Watch time, and the completion rate.

    Essentially, you want to make short content that will encourage the viewer to keep watching until the end, AKA an open loop.

    If you do manage to get good watch time and completion rate, then you will be put into the For You page again. Over and over. Until your completion rate & watch time dwindles.

    It also helps if you have loyal fans which you can get with follow/unfollow.

    There is a video version of this on YouTube that explains the same thing I do here, go check it out. His name is 李俊超.

    I hope this post was of help to any of you guys. If you have any more questions, just reply to this thread. Anyways, cya!
     
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  2. unknownsmmers

    unknownsmmers Power Member

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    From my experience, short videos may work!

    Similar to YouTube watch time, the longer they watch - it makes sense that tik tok would be ranked with a good score to show other people

    But also, I've tried a short video that said "stupid" and it barely reached anybody (just below 100 views, it was one of my first videos)

    The main video that did good was of pets (pg 13)

    I think the "stupid" video reached less people, because I had a video removed which was Alex Jones saying "I'm gunna be honest, I'm kinda retarded" and it was deleted within an hour (shortly before, my pets video went viral)

    Which also leads me to believe they don't penalize you like instagram (they have less room to irritate new users), but at the same time proves they're strict on foul language and those posts go nowhere
     
  3. aRodeo

    aRodeo Newbie

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    I've seen very, very dark posts go viral before though. It's quite puzzling, honestly..
    But almost 90% of the users are more "personal" than business-focused, so the followback ratio is so much higher compared to Instagram
     
  4. unknownsmmers

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    Yeah I believe they're more personal & engaging because a friend of mine & I have noticed the home feed is localized, generally showing people from your area

    I'm not sure if following 2,000+ new people changes the home feed , I'll do some sampling/testing this weekend

    If it's localized, this is a gold mine - because everyone will be under the impression it's bot free, and locals following you
     
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    aRodeo Newbie

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    I believe TikTok has their own bots though. You know what I'm talking about. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Peenoi

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    I'm gonna try doing gif+music if that works

    And also tiktok is very famous here since i'm in an asian country

    I also notice some videos contain sexy, teaser content
     
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  7. unknownsmmers

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    You can download/save any video from instagram (or from any Asian app popular in your area), then save it through a video editing app (2 saves, no editing)

    That way, Tik Tok recognizes it as original/new content from a video editing app file, and it'll allow you to post a video without music, the only audio will be of the video you use

    Also, if you can check your home feed and let us know if you see mainly Asian users ,
    And let us know how many people you follow

    This could answer my assumption/Questioning above
     
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  8. Peenoi

    Peenoi Newbie

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    i am still not sure about the discover section but in the main feed mostly videos are from my country

    so i only need to save using apps and will not require editing to prevent copyright?
     
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  9. aRodeo

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    Rerendering would help but not needed.
     
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  10. Peenoi

    Peenoi Newbie

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    just like other social media platforms:

    Quality content now
    Monetize later

    currently watching 李俊超's channel the one you suggested in the thread
     
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    I wouldn't post copyright content, just repost viral/funny/your niche videos from instagram,
    There should be no cross-over flag of reposting, unless someone else posted that first, or unless it's copyright by law (which you shouldn't be using anyway)

    They shouldn't act like YouTube for copyright/content ownership, they're still in beginner stage. They just want users & original/good feed

    I don't think a water mark changes anything anyway, unless their recognition system is weak

    Even with instagram, you can repost feed & hit explore with no edits. Just avoid celebrity/actual copyright content
     
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    Anyone try babe videos?
     
  13. unknownsmmers

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    I suggest reviewing the terms & conditions if you're looking to walk on a fine line

    If they have anything broadly mentioned to cover that, avoid it. Since you'll lose manual effort & time if you're deleted

    I've had a post deleted (foul language: "I'm retarded")

    So it's iffy.
    Maybe do viral / babes
    And if the babes get deleted, stick to viral
     
  14. aRodeo

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    Risky, but you can. Check a user named: Danielle Cohn. People will make jokes about it in the comments, but it will perform very well.
     
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    About watch time do you mean that we have to focus on longer video or shorter ? Because if it is about how much time user spend on the video if we do short video don't you think this will not help us ?
     
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    Pretty sure it’s scaled by percentage, as I’ve seen 15 second videos go viral.
     
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    I just made a Tiktok account, i posted a basic funny pet video from a viral instagram post, i used viral TikTok hashtags too. When will the views start coming in ? Its still at 0 plays since 30 mins. How long did it take for you ?
     
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    interesting thread following
     
  19. YujinTan

    YujinTan Elite Member

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    This is a cool app I should say,

    I can say might over take IG , I noticed under your profile cannot put link?
     
  20. YujinTan

    YujinTan Elite Member

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    Ah, I got it , is more benefit to other social media accunt of yours

    I link with IG can see the iG icon beside but , I link with youtube cannot never show.

    It seem only can show One social media icon beside ?