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ticket for making loud noise.. any help?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by martasanto45, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. martasanto45

    martasanto45 BANNED BANNED

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    here's the story:
    me and my friend were moving some stuff from his old house to his new house... the house are relatively close so we were walking with the stuff on our hands. We also had 1 beer each (just the bottle, we had drinked the beer already)
    The cops stopped us at 12:20 (night) and searched for drugs/guns and nothing.. then they said we were gonna get a ticket for having a empty bottle of beer and we were under 21 so we cannot drink alcool.
    I was cool with that... he gave us the ticket and it says in the ticket:
    "Disorderly Conduct dragging a (large haul) throughout city street causing noise."
    idk wtf is a haul thou..

    we were not making noise..and we were just walking with the stuff in out hands.. i had a baby seat and he had a umbrella.

    Can we do something about this ticket?
    i feel like this is not right what he did... the beer bottle was empty he has no proof that we drank it and he wrote that we was making noise and thats not true.

    any advice would help. its not the money its just the attitude he had, fckin cop
    btw this was in NJ, USA.
     
  2. deth_by_uv

    deth_by_uv Power Member

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    Here's some good advice:

    Change your attitude. You're lucky you didn't get two tickets.

    Cops don't need to have "proof" as you call it, you were walking with an open alcohol container, you're underage, you probably looked like you were just done robbing a house so you're wrong on all counts. Pay your ticket, move on with your life. Looks to me like he cut you a break by writing you a ticket for a lesser offense hoping you'd learn your lesson - apparently you didn't.
     
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  3. myrtlebeachdude

    myrtlebeachdude Registered Member

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    That sucks. I'd be happy though. If he wanted to be a complete douche, he could of gave ya'll a breathalyzer. If it came up with any amount of alcohol, you could have been arrested and had your license suspended for a year for being underage (even if you weren't driving/in a vehicle). Or at least that is how it is in GA & SC.

    Sounds like he was trying to get out of some paperwork or going thru that hassle, or actually wanted to give you a break. My suggestion, pay the fine and be more careful having exposed alcohol containers in public (whether you were drinking or not).

    Also forgot to note. I was out at the beach one day when I was underage...cleaning up all the litter people throw on the beach thinking its their personal trash can. Anyways I had a few beer bottles in my hand when the beach police drove by. He asked for my license and used the fact that I had alcohol containers and was underage to search my car w/o permission. After he came up with nothing, he then seemed to believe that I was actually cleaning up the beach and thanked me. Alcohol container, regardless if its empty or full, when your underage is "cause" for a search, I believe.
     
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  4. The Scarlet Pimp

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    First rule is to keep beer bottles outta sight at all times, regardless of your age. If you got the cash then fight the ticket. You can always ask a lawyer (or two) what your options are in this case. Altho you may not have many.
     
  5. djedje70

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    none of ur fr#$%ing biz dude!!!
    LOL, are you serious???
    Cops nowadays find you guilty by suspicions for no fucking good reasons. Since when does walking on the street with an umbrella, a baby seat and 2 empty bottle of beers a crime???
    Then again, maybe I just misunderstand these poor power-trippers and maybe I should become a wuss and bow down my head everytime I see them. If they say "jump", I'll say "How high" from now on... :yield:
     
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  6. godmonkee

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    I am not from the US so I don't really understand the law there, but on a general scale you will see one of two things happening with you be in the US or anywhere else in the world, The police force on a whole are being given more and more power at a fenominel rate, there are laws being passed for things we no nothing about just to give them that extra power to keep us under control, the main thing I am seeing especially in the US is the fear to speak freely, if you had said something to him he would of had arrested on something even stupider but he could have done, which to me is taking away your rights to speak freely. My advice to you on your problem is this you have 2 options, as someone said above if you can afford it seek legal advice and fight the case as it is bogus and ridiculous, or you can lie down take it up the a** and just pay the ticket. To be honest I probably would just go with taking it up the a** and pay the ticket as if you got legal advice and try to fight it, it would end up being a long drawn out case and mysteriously something would pop up in the case that you weren't aware of and you would probably lose and end up paying double what you had to pay double what it was in the first place.

    Thats my tickets worth anyway
    Best of luck in what you decide
     
  7. martasanto45

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    the problem is he gave us the ticket for loud noise because in the paper he was looking at (he didnt had a computer in the car) there was nothing talking about having a empty bottle of beer... we just keep the bottles in case some dude tried to rob us.
    This ticket is not the same as a normal one.. i will receive it on the mail, i just got something explaining what happened. so ima wait the 10 days they said and see the price of the ticket, if its more than $20 ima do something about it.
    He didn't saw us drinking and he doesnt have any proof we were making noise... i can easily say he was being an asshole also... my word against his.
     
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  8. graphicnut

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    Of course they do you numpty. That's why you don't usually see an officer book you on his own, more than likely two of them so one can be witness if it did ever proceed.

    Take it to them, say you were not causing noise. Did both of you get a ticket? Any houses around to back you up?

    Fuck the law, just fight them back.

    P.S Didn't you know that an umbrella is a dangerous weapon

    j/k :)
     
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  9. Jared255

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    Do you mind me asking how much it is for? If it's not that much, just pay it.

    Cops word > Your word
     
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    I like that you had the bottles in case someone tried to rob you for your baby seat and umbrella. Tell that one to the judge...
     
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    just tell them you like objectal insertion. Say your mate takes it up the choccy speedway with a bud bottle. Fuck em
     
  12. martasanto45

    martasanto45 BANNED BANNED

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    if some dude tries to rob you and u dont have money to give him he will just shoot you.
    so keep ur ignorance to yourself


    and i will update this thread in 10 days after seen the ticket price.
     
  13. swinter84

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    You are crazy... First they have to have proof, but that's not to say they won't lie about "proof"... Who the hell in their right mind would think someone just robbed a baby seat and umbrella?!? I think you are wrong on all counts, and think you sound like a pig or you have a pig in the family.

    To OP: He didn't catch you drinking, so he couldn't charge you for that. Who's to say you didn't pick up some litter?

    Power happy cops should be shot in the face :AR15firin , and :thefinger to all the haters who don't agree...
     
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  14. cool0403

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    cops from the USA are all pussys think they have tons of power. Ask for an extension for your court case,if the cop who gave you the ticket doesn't show to your court date then they 'll have to drop the charges cause there is no way to prove your ticket. So that's why i asked for an extension for the time i got arrested, hope that son-of-a-bitch doesn't show and i can go freely and spend my money in some Black Hat projects i have going on.
     
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    if you only got a ticket for the noise - your pretty lucky, but still if you where not actually making that noise, and your neighbors didnt complain that is kinda messed up...

    if im not mistaken if you dispute it and you have to go to court and the cop doesnt show they will throw the case out? i very much doubt that the cop would show for something like that??? infact the judge would probably throw it out just on it been a waste of tax payers money! if it does go through the courts be sure to go to the newspaper and state your story and get a photo of yourself wearing a tshirt with a url promoting one of your sites on it! ;)

    personally if i wasnt in the wrong i would dispute it just on principle - even if the ticket was $25, thats just me though! :)
     
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  16. Jared255

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    Can you say stereotype?
     
  17. turner

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    pay the f*ckin thing and be done with it....
     
  18. alexaassassin

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    1 - Contest the ticket in Court. Wear a tie. Type your statements to read.
    2 - Claim you picked up the bottles from ON THE STREET to return them for money - they were discarded from a car passing by, but did not break. You thought it would be terrible if a car got a flat due some pucks that didn't care.
    3 - BRING TO the Court what you were carrying and ask if he could think of any way
    they would make noize ...because there WAS NO BABY and there WAS NO THUNDERSTORM.
    4 - Tell him you are too poor to afford to pay the ticket, otherwise you would have taken a cab that night.
    5 - Tell him that you were terrified that the police were going to beat on you, tazer you, pepper spray you or use other force if you argued it with them and that you felt unsafe to do so.
    6 - Tell him that the cop looked dissappointed that he found no drugs and may have needed to excercise his authority to prevent a false arrest - so he made up the noize issue. He probably figured at first that we stole the stuff, and since we didn't, he would have been in trouble for arresting us on the street to question us.
    7 - "Your honor, respectfully, if that were not totally 100% true, there would be a record of a call to Police, complaining about the noise from the two young men "dragging" a baby seat and an umbrella".
    8 - I'm really not sure how much noise COULD BE made by dragging an umbrella, but I do know that the baby seat has a retail value of $XXX.xx and so we would not risk damage to it by dragging it, nor could any able-bodied reasonable person feel that dragging these items would be more comfortable or easier than carrying them above ground.
    9 - This is the very first time I or my friend have EVER been in trouble with the law.

    NOTE: If you cannot say # 9 -- pay the ticket.
     
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  19. cool0403

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    hey stereotype for my city, speaking from personal experience.
     
  20. martasanto45

    martasanto45 BANNED BANNED

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    i just got back from the court the ticket is $50 , so ima just pay it

    Thread can be closed, thanks all for the help