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Throw our your smartphone now

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by RMX, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. RMX

    RMX Power Member

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  2. LakeForest

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    If that URL is correct, the article is 2 years old.
     
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    Who knew? Smart Phones are ten times a greater violation of privacy than facebook. Ugh!
    Most of us are voluntarily chipped.
     
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    Bro did you not read the news about NSA and Prism? If you are worried about this you need to throw out your smartphone, desktop, laptop, iPad, Sony PS3, Xbox, you might as well throw out your TV and just grow some potatoes which you can sell on the market. We enjoy a world of technology, but we're actually allowing our governments (sorry, the US gov, which is NOT my gov) to become a global police state. Welcome to the 21st century
     
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    They also record conversations while turned off, and watch you masturbate.
     
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    TehEpidemick BANNED BANNED

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    Where do u live, if a major country, your gov does it also.
     
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    Somewhere, there is record and evidence of what really is happening in the world, the truth, and that's astounding to me.

    History is written by the winners, but never before has there been so much compiled data of how things and people "really are".

    If we don't mess things up, we're in for such a promising future.
     
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    Welcome to the dark age.
     
  9. Black.Star

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    Thats the reason why I won't own a smartphone until it runs stable with linux.
     
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    yeah, of course where I am now they do it, excpt they don't forward all the data to the US and lick their asshole clean (like my native country does.. western europe). But yes, anywhere you go its the same. If you don't wanna be spied on, you have to go and become a shephard in the mountains. And still then they probably got a military satellite on your ass while you are taking a crap...
     
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    LOL. Sure linux is way safer...

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/19/linux_backdoor_intrigue/

    http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/os/redhat/rhel5-guide-i731.pdf
     
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    News flash, your iPhone is spying on you too, throw that out as well. Oh wait, you paid 500$ for it, better think again, being spied is not such a bad thing after all...
     
  13. Black.Star

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    You know why Torvald rejected the petition to remove RdRand from the kernel? Because he is not a fucking dumbass like the guys who started the petition. Here is what Torvald wrote in response:

    Here is drivers/char/random.c with an explanation of how it works after the copyright notice: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/char/random.c Isn't open source a great thing!? We can continue discussing encryption in the linux kernel if you want but it gets complex really fast and I don't wanna type too much here.

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    You know what else you posted? A guide from the NSA to secure your linux redhat OS. Read again. To secure it! What has that to do with how good linux is for protection against privacy breach? By the way. Red hat Enterprise Linux is an commercial system. Thats why the NSA has a paper like this. So goverment agencies or companies who use this for sensitive data can even disable the unlikeliest attack vectors.

    There a thousands of differnet linux distributions. Some are especially put together for people to be completly anonymous or do online banking etc with. Then there are distributions for not so tech savy users that don't require a lot of knowledge to operate. Then we have distributions like Kali-Linux or Backtrack who are especially built for doing pentesting on other systems.

    The important part is that Linux is so that you have complete control over your OS and that you can change stuff however you need to.
    Even for users who don't know shit about how to operate a computer or how cryptography and privacy works linux is way more secure.
    Both on a computer and a smartphone. The thing about linux is that you can't put a backdoor in the OS without all the thousands of people around the world working on the kernel noticing. Thats what open source is all about. The bigger the community the safer the technology.

    Most of the software that costs a shitton on windows has free alternativies for linux. Same thing will happen with smartphones and the apps for linux. The whole community is built around free, open and secure software.
     
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    Our privacy has been being violated for the last 10 years or so. If you don't think that AOL didn't keep those databases of your mailbox from back in the day, you're sadly mistaken. I imagine the government (at least one part of it) just sees the people as sheep that they can manipulate. It's sad, very sad. But what can you do? Nothing. That's what. The best thing you can do, actually, is talk in code if you're speaking on sensitive information. It's bullshit and we cannot do anything about it. As for throwing out my smart phone, the government can suck my d**k and look at all the nice below the belt pictures of myself I took for them.
     
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