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( threads) Damn you Google I lost my traffic, what to do

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by SkyrocketSEO, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. SkyrocketSEO

    SkyrocketSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    No, I haven't lost traffic, but these threads lately...c'mon guys. If there is one thing I hate more than "How to monetize Fb page with 1mil Likes" kind of a thread, is people on this forum coming here crying how they lost their traffic after each Google update and all they did was "just a couple of spammy WEb 2.0s" or "white hat pyramid"!!! yes, I think I saw someone said "white hat pyramid"

    And even better is seeing random people "helping" saying, disavow all links and order a lot of social signals.....what? why?

    If you're playing with fire of course you're gonna get burned, so don't come later crying. be a man, and start a new site and do even more black hat

    2nd option is to go white hat (lots of you noobs can learn from that guy Mathew Woodward where he is explaining how he is building his blog, without link building).

    So, yeah, I know you need to rank fast and furious and earn a full bag of smackeroonies but no need to cry when you get slapped.

    P.S. 10K links for $100 is not good SEO no matter what the BST owner tell you
     
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  2. hameem

    hameem Elite Member

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    This just gave me an idea of starting a "consolation" service on BHW.
     
  3. notyourmatey

    notyourmatey Power Member

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    ...true story...
     
  4. mootonandy

    mootonandy Supreme Member

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    You wouldn't be MW by any chance would you?
     
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    Just a friendly bump so the OP's rant can be enjoyed by others as well as myself.

    You did hit the nail on the head skyrocketseo, especially with the "disavow the links and order social signals" - I just saw that post!
     
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    Nah he's Matt Cutts Jr.
     
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  7. havingadabble

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    Funny, Matthew Woodward goes by the name of MatthewWoodward on this forum!
     
  8. Goal Line Technology

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    Hmmm controversial comment, in a way, I agree with your overall sentiment OP,
    but to be honest, a lot of the education in BHW is from the discussions which draw out
    the factors and real life issues which are affecting our members sites'
    so I would not rule everything out of hand as such.

    Yes, you are correct that there is a lot of "whinging" about the effects of BH (and the penalties they sometimes create)
    but intellingent people should be able to read between the lines and interpret the findings of others to suit thier own agenda.

    Broadly speaking, good quality information is steming form posts by Scritty , and other threads such as these.

    These threads have REAL VALUE imho :)

    Code:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/612808-google-update-just-now-10-4-a.html
    Code:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/615200-5-early-soft-conclusions-opportunities-penguin-2-1-a.html
    Code:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/616384-tutorial-link-disavow-tools-tutorial-make-life-lot-easier.html
    All is not lost.
    Not all BST are worthless,like any other business, due diligence
    and buying what suits the individual at any given moment in time will yield profits,
    if shopping is pertinent and timeworthy.

    Just saying :)
     
  9. SkyrocketSEO

    SkyrocketSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    The thing is. I never said that 10K for $100 is worthless, actually that's the price for 10K random links (I guess). But, the thing is, people trow this kind of package on a new site and they come back wondering why MaCu team deindexed them

    No, this is him and I bet he don't know about this thread.
     
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  10. funkybunker

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    1: I agree with your post, very good SkyrocketSEO.

    2: You're scary, I mean you're entertaining and insightful, but I'm always ready for brutal sarcasm.

    3: I'd still buy your service if you offer one. I may not be loaded, but that's where you come in.

    Have a pleasant day.
     
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  11. matt1972

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    The problem is G is well aware of "patterns" and most all newbies will pick up what one person says and go do that then say it didn't work. Why? Probably because it's an over used pattern that has well been buried in all the new filters G has come out with. That's all an update is, it's just addition to filters and the filters are "suppose" to be rolled out to show more relevant, precise results the searcher is looking for. For BH there is a way to get around these filters, just not like it used to be. You can't just half ass ejaculate spam like in the past and expect to get $10k a month results unless you really know what your doing with some sort of plan. Trial and error has been the proven result winner of getting good rankings and traffic. It just boils down to most people are lazy, have no initiative and follow sheepel mentality of thinking that hinders any sort of growth. I'll admit, creating your own way of doing things that work is much harder than trying to walk down a path that has already been cleared, ya. You'll get completely two different results at the end. Hey, coming here to complain about how I lost my traffic and attempting to get as many souls as I can jump on the fuck't G ban wagon is exactly the way to improve the situation, right?
     
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  12. MatthewWoodward

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    Thanks for the share :)

    That'll be me =D

    Indeed I do.

    My own thoughts on this subject are pretty blunt.

    This is INTERNET MARKETING
    SEO is a small part of internet marketing
    For most people SEO is the only part of their internet marketing
    If you 100% rely on Google and lose - thats YOUR bad business decisions. Its not googles fault, the link builders fault or anyone else. Its 100% on you.
    Secondary to that, negative SEO exists - its real. All of your hard work and investment can be pissed up the wall by anyone with a server and xrumer while they are asleep.
    I rarely see an affiliate site/site shared on here that actually deserves to rank.
    If your business model is to get people on the page and off the page via an affiliate link as quickly as possible - you will lose eventually.
    When did people forget about the MARKETING part of INTERNET MARKETING
    People are so obsessed with SEO/rankings/backlinks that can't see the woods for the trees
    SEO is nothing more than risk & reward management
    Quit bitching and build something that matters

    P.s http://www.moneysavingexpert.com is the best affilaite site I have ever seen. Notice how it doesnt look like an affiliate site?
     
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  13. shadowjack

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    i don't have traffic
     
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    Talks like a man... Need more members like you in here.
     
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    And even more annoying are your sarcastic replies on each of those threads looks like you wait for such threads to rant in answer of their rant


     
  17. redrubies

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    Or be a woman and get that site back to where it was.
     
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    So now people can no longer open threads talking about Google updates and share info about their sites tanking.... because it annoys you?

    Dude... if these threads annoy you then why don't you just not click on them and stick to whatever threads you usually like to browse? Or even better.. why don't you log off BHW every now and then?

    Rep threads I agree, bullshit lounge threads.. well why not. But threads about SEO and Google updates? What are you some kind of authority here at BHW to say sh*t like that?



    I agree that crying about it is lame, but discussing it is important. Those who don't want or don't need to discuss, then just stay out of them. At the same time I also lol at the advice given in some of those threads. But I still feel these threads have their place in a SEO forum or at least the SEO section of this forum.
     
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  19. redrubies

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    I never saw your posts, but I like you already. Market, market, and market some more. You can even bring back a dead site if google thinks you just got popular.
     
  20. SkyrocketSEO

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    So sorry for that, it won't happen again
     
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