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Thread for Consumers - Want to just pay & get the job done ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by helll0a, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. helll0a

    helll0a Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi all,

    Just like me, I am sure there are many others on this forum that just want to pay $ and get the job done instead of being an SEO expert. I have taken a stab at SEO but I just can not put together the information that I need to get started.

    I guess this thread can be useful to anyone that is just looking to spend $ and get their work done.

    For Churn and Burn

    What service(s) on here do you guys recommend here on BHW simply for the purpose of ranking temporarily and repeating the process.

    Please mention the step by step Process for purchasing links/services as well. Example: 1st purchase Social signals (From ?) then 2nd. Web 2.0 (From ?) 3rd. Private Blog Network Links.. etc.

    Long Term Ranking

    Best provider to use? I have read a lot on Leith. Seems like a good start. Any others in mind?

    What Methods of link building should be used? Please mention the step by step Process for purchasing links/services as well.

    **** Please keep in mind ON-PAGE optimization is a must and assume done perfectly prior to following suggestions from this thread ****
     
  2. SEO Power

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    A significant number of the link building services here on BHW are for churn and burn projects. To rank for the short term and the long term, you have to follow almost the same steps. The main difference is in the type of links you would build.

    You should start with some web 2.0s, profiles, comments, etc. for diversity before hitting your site with PBN and SAPE links and/or tiered links for churn and burn sites. You can also blast your site directly with junk links (that's extreme churn and burn).

    As for the whitehat way, I've never built a whitehat site since I started building niche sites and learning/practicing SEO.
     
  3. ColonelSoldier

    ColonelSoldier Junior Member

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    I'd say you're on the right track, with the churn and burn, for me I'd rather spend the "burn" the money on quality rather than ruin the site's potential...
     
  4. DannyZhang

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    Lol is that how everyone on bhw feels? To churn and burn? Sign, I've never started a churn and burn site although I've read so much about it. Mainly because I don't know how long the websites actually stick and I don't like making new sites all the time. Haha.

    I focus very much on local businesses sites that stick, so I can't really do C&B techniques.
     
  5. Scritty

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    Churn and Burn is popular for sure, but you need to know at least something about SEO to buy the right service.
    My private clients pay more than most of the ranking methods I've seen on here. Niche and competition analysis, sales funnel, content (multimedia) social marketing, PPC management, link building and site management and site optimization.
    The smallest client I deal with pays £600 per month for that ($1,000). However, that's because they know, and want to know nothing. Just "Make me money with my site" is the overall remit and if $1000 become $5000 every month, then as far as they are concerned - it's a bloody bargain.

    But if they knew something, managed their own site, had researched the competition before they started and had decent writing/media creation skills, managed their own social networks then the whole process would be a hell of a lot cheaper for them. $500 a month maybe - better there would be more understanding and trust between the SE and the site owner.

    But that's not how people seem to want to work. "Here's some money - make my site profitable" is pretty much what you are asked
     
  6. blacat

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    But if they needed to invest so much time to learn and implement, perhaps they would not have time or energy to manage the entire business.

    Your clients are managing a business in the black boxes method... and I think they are correct.
    They are happy to pay you for your services because at the end of the day their business as a whole is profitable.
     
  7. SEO Power

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    You are the polar opposite of me with regard to SEO.
     
  8. tony_d

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    Right... and how exactly would this 'thread for consumers' work? Would it be a place where vendors only ever tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and never make claims that can't be substantiated or demonstrated?

    In that case, all the sales thread would have to read "best efforts SEO, nothing guaranteed, but we'll try our best".

    Do you think those sales threads would be popular? I think not.
     
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