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Thoughts on these wiki media links?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by t0mmy, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    with the recent upsurge in programs and people selling these links I'm curious as too how much effect they have. I've recently removed them from my service as some ppl were complaining about sudden drops in rankings and the only thing i could put my finger on was the addition of these wiki media links....

    but then on the flipside my own results from them have been good :confused: so i decided to throw a load of them at a new money site thats sitting at #23 now and see what effect if any this will have, I'm gonna blast it with 4k of these and see how it gos, obvsly I'm doing a lot of other diverse link building so the site has a good foundation link wise so i don't expect to be sandboxed but we will see

    so any thought on the matter from personnal experience guys?
     
  2. abbyknight24

    abbyknight24 Junior Member

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    Personally, since using wiki links my sites are performing better now.
     
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  3. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    yea me too, but i've read a few posts around the forum of people getting slapped by google for using them, but then again it could be any number of factors why they got slapped, diversity is the key as any good SEO knows so these links along with a variety of others link types should be beneficial....
     
  4. Getwhatchuwant

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    I have seen good things from them myself.
     
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    They got slapped because they blasted a new site with it.
    All we need now is a drip feed wiki links for new sites.

    Hint: Offer that option and charge extra. ;)
     
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  6. Fathom

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    Can I see an example of these wikimedia links?
     
  7. UnSourCeR

    UnSourCeR Regular Member

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    Hello,

    I made some "experiments" with media wiki backlinks and the results were pretty good
    (4000+ backlinks from 2000 unique domains with lindexed sumbission).

    Medium Competition keyword
    Before: 7th Spot
    After 2 weeks of google dancing: 2nd Spot

    High Competition keyword
    Before: 15
    After 1 week (still google dancing): 10

    P.S: if you have mediawiki sites list without captcha pm me your price
     
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  8. Fathom

    Fathom Power Member

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    What I don't get is how can you sell a service that you do not even know works? You really should do some tests because as a seller on BHW you have responsibilities.
     
  9. kazhkaz

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    The wikis may work but the problem is very low index rate of wikis
     
  10. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    What on earth are you talking about? i don't sell wikis, If you read my OP right you will see i added them into my service and have now removed them until i gather further evidence on their benefits hence this thread! BTW you can test until the cows come home son but SEO is unpredictable what works for one person may not work the same for the next........

    anyway as for your first post heres some examples of wiki media sites:

    http://ahrc01ja.php5.truth.posiweb.net/
    http://aiptasia.cs.vassar.edu/
    http://aj.id.au/wiki/
    http://amandapalmer.despoiler.org/
    http://andromeda.thewafflehouse.net/wiki/
    http://ams.ut.ac.ir/magma/wiki/
    http://anterak.u-strasbg.fr/mediawiki/


    Good to see most people are seeing positive results with them then, my blast just finished so we'll see....
     
  11. Fathom

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    You mentioned that you stopped selling them as people were complaining. Am I missing something? that's what on earth i am talking about.

    Anyway I hope you get the answer you're looking for.

    I personally think they would be the best links to sell on BHW.
     
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  12. Getwhatchuwant

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    WOW thats a big blast, I usually just post to 60-200 wiki's at a time to various pages, but then most of the sites I point to are pretty new. One is just a month old and yes I did some other linkbuilding but the wiki's did not hurt it.
     
  13. jimmyn

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    Have seen mixed results with this type of linking. Had some bad feedback from wiki owners about their sites being spammed too.
     
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    One problem is the level of Pharma and porn links...

    Many wiki's have been blasted to bejeezus by them, which could make them look like bad neighbourhoods to G. I found one site that was getting 2,000 posts per day - 95% pharma spam (i.e. 10-30 links per post etc.) This doesn't look good!

    Just be careful that the wiki sites are reasonably 'clean'.

    BTW T0mmy... What software did you use to create your animated GIF avatar?
     
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  15. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    nah you have puck me up wrong i never sold them, i included them in my package but removed them after 1 week because 2 guys dropped rankings it was an easy choice remove the last thing added until i could gather more evidence to show if they were the cause or not.....

    see I'm quick on the ball like that, after all i do have a responsibility to my clients ;) i do agree with you though they are good links and once I'm sure it wasn't them that caused the drop in 2 out of over 50 clients I'll re-add them, better safe than sorry......


    yea mate well this is it isn't it, but your going to get that with lots of link types well any that can be created in quick mass like this.

    I found this avatar some place else man i can't remember were now, you like? :p
     
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    I am experimenting with these links (as well as other wiki types) too. Currently using them to blast money sites directly, as well as just web 2.0 links, social network links from SENUKE as well as various other combinations.

    The thing I am pissed of is this one: None software I have found for the wikis has a manual option to spun the username. Username = Title in Media Wiki for example, what means that it is very important that the username is correct.

    However, the software I have at my hand and bought does either not spun Username at all or it spin it automatically, but you can not choose to what it spins it to - what is very very bad....

    I believe that these links are good (partially it can be already seen from my tests), however the problem is that you have to blast them correctly, what the soft I have can not do. I believe that with a right piece of software/bot and right approach to them, they can be as powerful as anything.

    PS: If you have at hand the software that allows manually setting up the username spin, shoot me a PM. Thanks!
     
  17. t0mmy

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    so guys, the results have been shocking in just over 24 hours to say the least! i disapeared from SERPs a few hours after the blast, just returned today at #4! so from #23 to #4 :)
     
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    looks like these will be going back in your service then
     
  19. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    indeed ;)
     
  20. jascoken

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    t0mmy...

    What software are you using for your blasts? Or is it your own dev work?