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This software seller is a scammer - HEALZER

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by Honestjoe, Jun 22, 2019.

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  1. Honestjoe

    Honestjoe Registered Member

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    Healzer is the creator of software called "Pinbot" "Forum Analyzer pro" and "Youtube Calculator"

    I bought 3 lifetime licences from him, he made heaps of promises about upgrading them (which never! happened) and then Healzer just abandoned all 3 softwares and left buyers high and dry.. None of them work anymore

    I don't have all my paypal receipts because I closed that paypal account after it got hacked and I don't have the emails proving I bought them from him as my email also got hacked and everything was deleted

    I'm sick of hackers and scammers who sell a product and then leave you high and dry once they move onto their next project to scam people with

    Avoid the guy who calls himself *Healzer*

    You've been WARNED!

    I found one of the transactions with Healzer in my 2016 bank account to prove that my claims have merit and credibility.. The other two transactions were purely made with my paypal balance (And that paypal account is closed) so I can't prove those other 2.. But at least I have some credibility now..

    HERE IS MY UPLOAD AND BANK TRANSACTION WITH HEALZER FOR ONE OF THE SOFTWARE:
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    HERE IS ALSO THE CONVERSATION I HAVE HAD WITH HEALZER PROVING THAT I BOUGHT ALL 3 SOFTWARES FROM HIM:
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    I ALSO PAID HIM FOR PINBOT 3 - Which is ridiculous because once you buy software the updates should be free, it's a scam, this Healzer guy is a huge scammer

    https://i.imgur.com/5eP9w34.jpg
     
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  2. Honestjoe

    Honestjoe Registered Member

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    Here are the messages I've sent to Healzer, trying to communicate with him, which he ignores (It's pointless as he just wants me to go away so he can keep my money for services/software not properly offered).. He should NOT be allowed to sell on any forum anymore. Healzer is a dishonest guy and the precise definition of a scammer.. A lifetime license for some software should mean a lot longer than just 3 years.. I barely got any use out of them.

    Here are my attempts to communicate with Healzer, with NO! success.

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    And HERE:

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    I realize I am never! going to get my money back, or even part of my money,
    but it would be nice if this guy "Healzer" was stopped from scamming anyone else....

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  3. Honestjoe

    Honestjoe Registered Member

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    Healzer SL.PNG Well. Mr Healzer finally decided to reply and he told me that he sold the "Pinbot" "Forum Analyzer pro" and "Youtube Calculator" businesses 2 years ago and that I should have received an email letting me know (An email that I never! received)

    I hadn't used any of the software for 2 years, because I just naively "assumed" that my lifetime licences would always be there and valid.. SILLY ME!

    Then the new business owner decided to cancel my lifetime licences for all 3 softwares so that he could blackmail and force us lifetime licence holders to pay a ridiculous! and exorbitant new amount of money for new lifetime licences

    Healzer pretty much told me "Bad luck, and that it is not his problem anymore" Not in those words exactly, but that was pretty much the gist of the private conversation that I just had with him

    Which means at the same time that Healzer was asking me for more money to update to pinbot 3.0 and making me promises to update "Forum Analyzer pro" and "Youtube Calculator" with new features, HE KNEW! HE WAS GOING TO SELL HIS BUSINESSES and lied/scammed me to get as much money out of me while he could before he sold his businesses off

    Then my lifetime licences were just cancelled by the new owner.. Healzer is very shady and dishonest. A lot of software sellers are in my unpleasant experience just like him.. dishonorable, quick cash stealing charlatans. He knew he was selling his businesses around the same time that he was sucking up more money from me and my bank account, and he knew that he was NEVER going to be keeping his promises about some of the software upgrades (as stated on his sales pages) Healzer was bald face lying to me

    I am so sick to death of all the shady people around the net that have no honor or integrity whatsoever

    Avoid doing business with "Healzer" as this guy is as shady as they come (Please pass the word onto others and save them their hard earned cash)

    Lesson learned

    Buy Scrapebox and do business with these kind of reputable people/businesses with good long standing reputations for honoring their licences

    I'm done with it all

    Thank you to everyone who helped me on here.. bless you!


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  4. MisterF

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    Shitlist Request Approved

    @healzer has been notified he has 48 hours to respond to this post.

    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

    If anyone else has issues with this service, ensure you supply screenshots etc.

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  5. healzer

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    Thanks for raising this up.
    The tools you bought were acquired by another company 2 years ago.
    During that period I sent out quite some emails to everyone on the mailing list.

    I always offered a 30 day money back guarantee, which is long overdue.

    I no longer have contact with the company that bought my tools, and they probably went bankrupt or something happened, which is why you no longer have access to the tools.

    Nothing else I can help you with mate.
     
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    You put the sales thread here in August 2017;

    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/selling-my-20-000-year-business.968374/


    Yet in May
    "All PinBot 3.0 Premium users can use their same license id(s) to active Premium on PinBotAI - no additional fees/costs!"

    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/p...tware-free-trial.833949/page-14#post-10003228.


    You sold LIFETIME licences for tools, lifetime does not last 18 months nor 2 years.

    You had a duty of care to ensure the buyer honoured these licences.

    The buyers legal contract as a customer was with you as the seller ( offering the lifteime licences ) on BHW, so this " Nothing else I can help you with mate, " does not cut it.
     
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  7. Honestjoe

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    You're still shady, Healzer. You made promises after promises that were never kept... Next month... next month... next month i'll upgrade it... next month... next month.... and you know you did that, Healzer.. On skype you would delay and delay, month after month (little did I know your were actually in the midst of selling everything and leaving your customers high and dry) and you knew you were just blowing smoke up my keister.. That is on your conscience to live with (but I am sure you're turning your nose up at me right now, in defiance)

    You even had the nerve! to take more money off me knowing you were selling everything... That is crook type behavior, very shady

    I guess all that means is: so sad, too bad for me and others, huh? That is pretty much what I expected..

    I will still be "politely" warning people all over the internet, everywhere you sell or advertise software, to avoid your software and product scams, and the MASSIVE risks of doing business with you..

    I am not going to do anything else from here on out but warn people about you.

    "30 days money return".. how ridiculous.. How did I know that after the 30 days was up that you would screw all your customers over.. don't be a smarty pants.. You're just trying to be too cute by half with that slap in the face of a comment

    Frankly I have personally had enough! of being constantly ripped off and lied too by people like you...

    So I suppose that is that then...
     
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  8. healzer

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    Lol, well just ban me already.
    Out of the +2000 clients I served, you had to be the only one causing trouble all these years later.
     
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    You are not willing to back up what you sold per the contract with the buyer when they bought?
     
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  10. Honestjoe

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    I never used the softwares for two years, because I wasn't ready to use them yet, at that time. As i stated previously! "I just naively and automatically assumed that my *lifetime* licences would always just be there for when I'm ready to use them"

    So when I was about to use them recently i was shocked to see that my licences and the software was dead, not working at all (I never got this so called email stating otherwise)

    I'm sure there are others who were annoyed or angry at what happened and at Healzers bad behavior, bad business practices, but many probably moved on realizing that Healzer is just another scammer in an ocean of scammers throughout the net, so what would be the point.

    Sadly this is what I'm dealing with, the exact arrogance and devil may care attitude that I'm up against

    Well at-least Healzer's phony professional facade has melted away and exposed his true self.. I'm grateful for that at-least.

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  11. Honestjoe

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    We live and learn. But I gave him more money than I should have.. It doesn't make his grifting off of me okay or honorable. Even after it looks like Healzer knew he was selling his businesses he asked me to give him even more! money for the upgrade to Pinbot 3.0.. Shady stuff.
     
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    @Honestjoe
    All of the tools/software got acquired by another firm 2 years ago.
    The fact that they went bankrupt or whatever is nothing I can do about.
    If you want to use the software, hire a reverse engineer for 20$ from fiverr to bypass the licensing check.
    But I doubt you will do that, because all you're trying to do is make money off of me.

    You can call me whatever you like, but there is nothing I can do for you.
    If you want a proper discussion, reach out to their support. If you are unable to get a reponse from them, let me know and I can give you the Skype of the owner.
     
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    So now you're being all reasonable once the heat starts ratcheting up.. "I'm trying to make money off of you?!!" The nerve of you, Healzer, the mitigating nerve!

    Don't start software, advertise them with "Lifetime licences" then skip out and leave people holding the bag. This is on you, not me, so please don't try and shift the blame, responsibility or! culpability.

    I already contacted the sales page that is selling your! software at an exorbitant price.. but non surprisingly they just ignored me.

    Am I lying when i stated "Healzer kept making promises after promises to me for over a year about some of the software pertaining to features and future updates, like in forum analyzer" for example? and you kept stalling and stalling, while the updates never actually happened or eventuated, instead you sold it all.

    It's not me, it's you, Healzer. You feel somehow I have no reason or right to be just a little perturbed and angry. Just admit you might just be in the wrong on some of these issues and it might help go a long way, who knows

    Fine, i'll private message you. We'll see what happens
     
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    Because some people have a life and dont spend all day online.
    PM sent with skype ids
     
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    Is that what you call scamming people like me "having a life"?

    Okay, thank you. I got the ids.
     
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    Can you please delete this trend, MisterF?
     
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    Healzer and I worked things out and squashed our beef... Could you please delete this thread.. Thanks :)
     
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    We don't delete these, we lock them once these are resolved.

    Thread closed as you're satisfied with the outcome and nobody else has come forward.
     
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