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This Might Be SAD, I Need Honest Advice From Advanced/Experienced IM'ers | NO HATERZ PLZ!!

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by pennystocks, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. pennystocks

    pennystocks Junior Member

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    NO HATE, if you have dirty or insulting comments keep them to urself please try to respect.
    Ok... So here it is.. I am in need of help and im not ashamed to say it.

    My Overview:

    I've been a BHW member since 2010 and I haven't sincerely asked for help from the community but I definitely need it. I've been reading posts and articles on various forums including BHW for the past few years and I have learned a lot since then. I learned a lot about almost everything concerning internet marketing and SEO including many different money making methods and optimization methods as well. I have achieved some decent organic search engine rankings over the years and almost all my earnings have either been from adsense and selling some of my websites with some decent keyword rankings. Now, im not gonna lie I have not made a ton of money from internet marketing in the past few years but I have enjoyed every moment and this business is for sure my passion and this is definitely what I want to do for the rest of my life once im able to achieve good steady income. I am not good at coding or web design but I have built a few sites using wordpress in the past. I am pretty knowledgeable in internet marketing and I am a hard worker and I am constantly learning new things and keeping up to date with the community. I am also a pretty quick learner and I am always willing to do whats necessary to succeed and I will keep trying until I do.

    My Problem:

    U guys might have heard this one before, I am having A LOT of trouble choosing what to focus on in order to move forward with my internet marketing career. I have an execution problem I start many different projects and methods for making money but I very rarely (if ever) finish what I started and im sure im not the only one that has this problem, thats why I think its important that this issue is addressed. There are so many different ideas and methods I come across its fuckin confusing. I have figured out that one of the main reasons I don't finish the money making methods and projects that I start is because I am constantly asking myself whether or not im doing the most productive task or not. In other words I kind of obsess about finding the money making method that will make me the most money, I am always scared that Im wasting my time because I dont know for sure whether or not its going to work out for me or not because in the past I usually ended up empty handed. The reason why I always doubt whether or not im working on the right thing is because in the internet marketing community there is a lot of controversy and also fluff, you never know who to trust because there is always some people who say the method will work and others that say no way in hell it will work so its very confusing. I want to work on a method that I know almost for sure will reward me for my work, I have wasted too much time trying or reading about hundreds of different methods that sound great but not for sure worth doing the work because the next post u read will have a method that sounds better so I go in circles and simply end up doing FUCK ALL, ZERO! Without progressing or moving forward :/

    Hopeful Solution:
    I have a big enough budget to invest in many things if its worth it so plz keep that in mind.
    I need solid advice or recommended methods proven to work. Something that I can make some good money doing no matter how many hours it will take. I want u guys to tell me your opinion, if you could chose ONE or TWO things I should pursue maybe short-term and long-term that would be the most efficient use of my time to dedicate to. For example: I have read a few times that the best marketing channel to use should be email marketing, making a squeeze page/ landing page and building a niche specific email list and promote products to. I have also read the best use of time would be for me to make my own product or ebook and get affiliates to promote and sell it. I have read some where else that the best use of time would be to do keyword research and do SEO to make my website rank for high traffic keywords and make money from ads and aff. products or maybe start my own offline seo biz..... ETC. ETC. ETC.TOO MANY I DONT KNOW WHAT TO CHOSE PLEASE HELP It would be much appreciated!!! Please give some detail


    Thanks for ur time I hope I didnt make u too tired/annoyed reading this crap thx
     
  2. laowai

    laowai Power Member

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    I think that this is what most of people here are struggling with and I'm afraid that there is no simple answer otherwise most of people would be banking big time. What you should find is what works for you, you cannot make many of methods work big time for you as you might be lacking something, the twist, what those people who banks has. There is no single formula to get some method working you can only learn the principles but then its up to your skills and capability to make money. It can be small thing twisted to many of the shared methods that can make you bank, but you need to figure out that twist by yourself.

    I would suggest that you keep trying and when you find any method that is bringing enough money compared to effort then you scale it up and if you succeed you automate/outsource as much as possible and after that you look into some other method. Don't jump between methods trying to find the winner, first make some methods to bring you solid income.
     
  3. miluge

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    We are quite like you in BHW, but what I do to stay focus is I note down everything just to keep track of my progress.

    At first when I started ( I'm not making huge amount but enough to live as I'm a student ) I tried a lot of method what I did is each week I picked a few methods and dedicated x amount of time per day to it, if the method is not making money I put it aside and review it on sunday to find what is wrong. And apply my new twist, as the guy said just before me the little twist makes the big difference but you need to be consistent.

    The IM field is large you just have to find the one you enjoy and where you can be creative. Also always carry a pen and a paper with you, surprisingly I always had great ideas who made me so decent bucks when I was out, taking a step back is sometimes the best thing to do.

    Try to not go on BHW or other IM forum for a week and see what happen maybe you will have ideas flowing. I once had one when I was working on a custom moped of mine, one when waiting for the tram and another one when I watched a grandma playing with her grandchild.
     
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    Not trying to be a dick or anything but even if you DO get recommendations for "exact" methods, everyone will recommend something different. This won't do any good for your current "confusion" state.

    In my opinion you don't need a method, you need to change your mindset. You have the knowledge?, you have the money to invest, you have the "passion" as per your words. Only thing left is to stick to something till the end. The best use for BHW in my opinion is to get your creative brain juices flowing, not to copy/paste methods.

    Hope this helps a bit.
     
  5. pennystocks

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    Hey thanks for reply dude...

    I don't think my msg came across as I hoped. I do not want to copy an exact method, I have plenty of great ideas. What I want is to be lead in the right direction so that I have the right confidence in what im doing and not to doubt myself.

    if you could chose one of the following to dedicate your time to (from your experience) what would it be. Which of the following activities has the best invest of time in terms of value:
    1) email marketing (affiliate products) - list building etc.
    2) Natural Seo keyword rankings
    3) content/article marketing
    4) product creation
    5) offline seo services
    6) social media marketing
    7) domain/website flipping
    8) youtube/video marketing
    9) buying wholesale products and selling products on amazon/ebay, or dropshipping
     
  6. ctadvert

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    Me I would always go for building a list, if you can build yourself a nice list they are yours for ever if you provide them with good quality affiliate tools or weekly advice. While your building your list you can then move on to natural SEO along with content marketing and as you have the budget you can easily purchase content from fiverr or SEOClerks and if you base that Natural SEO around offline marketing you can target that aswell...

    But here is what I would do if you want some quick money, I would sign up for a PPI site like media kings or similar, Grab an affiliate link, Put the link on Facebook, Twitter or Youtube with an associated video or maybe even a blog so you can content lock it. I would then head over to Microworkers/Freelancer/Odesk or PPH and with your budget pay for people to download your link from the provided URL you posted your affiliate link, if you have it content locked you potentially get your offer in front of many others for free....

    This is just a suggestion but based on your list above I would always go for Email Marketing.

    Hope this helps :)
     
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    It doesn't matter.

    They all lead to the same thing.

    Why don't you just stop being a big pussy and give it your all.

    Are you scared of failing and learning from your failure?

    Coz that's how it comes across.

    Grow a pair and accept that failing is part of the game.... the sooner you fail the sooner you will succeed. But you will not win without failing.
     
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    Don't just talk about it, be about it!
    In reality, success isn?t measured in dollars or cents; it?s a mentality, one you should start striving for today ? in whatever it is you?re doing, whether big or small.
    Never be afraid to try doing things your own way; originality is what separates you from the rest of the competition. Always make sure to handle your business because when business is handled, people can?t ask questions.
     
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    Honestly I would say the best way to spend your time is coming up with a product or service to offer.
     
  10. ttrox

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    If there's something about IM that makes it exciting and both "risky" at the same time, is the ever-changing flow of the events. Sure, you can be banking through a ranking trick in Youtube, Google, but nobody knows what's going to happen in the future.

    I've always been thinking the same way as you (although I'm not making that much to worry about the tides changing) and I've come to the same conclusion as a lot of the guys above me: building an "authority" site which at the same time builds a "member list" or email list. That will build a followers' list that will always be yours. Maybe tomorrow Google deindexes your site, they rank it 10 pages below, but you'll still have people that will visit you through your mails or because your content is good enough.

    When there's a method that works, you gotta keep up with it, but if it's stable, concentrate on searching better methods to monetize with. If you want to bank with a certain method that won't last long, sure, that's the risk, but you'll probably learn more from it and will be able to use that same money to invest on other long-term projects.
     
  11. Ragab

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    The truth is most people here suffer from over abundance. Yes that is over abundance of information. You see because we get so many methods given for free and so many products in the download section, then we get greedy and we all want this method and that, or this product and that. then we become professional student of IM products and methods with new ones coming out daily.
    How to move on:

    Know your main strength, then pursue it and monetize it. The real and steady banking is in CPA as far as I'm concern. You can then add product development (info type or software) as a secondary stream.

    If you know how to drive traffic, I have a CPA first page submit only that pays $20/lead. Any and all traffic is allowed including offline even. If interested PM me.
     
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    just make your own product if you have this knowledge, this is the best!
     
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    Believe it or not I don't really do any of the things you have listed yet I still make decent money online. One thing that I can tell you is that you seem to think that there is one magic pill that you can take and all of a sudden you will have that ah ha moment and say "Oh now I know what to focus my time on, it's youtube or social media marketing" Wrong! Now I know and you know that it's not really possible to do all 9 of those things you have listed and be productive, but maybe you could do 3 or 4 of them and if you're not making money with those try something different or maybe you may need to just do several marketing tactics to make it work. What I'm getting at is there doesn't have to be one particular thing that causes you to be financially secure but just keep throwing stuff on the wall and see what sticks and what doesn't. There are so many people here on bhw who are banking big time and they make it look so easy and it probably is TO THEM but do you think it was always easy for them. I doubt it. The good thing is that just like myself you have what it takes and that's a true passion for internet marketing and for that reason I foresee you making big money in the future just be patient.
     
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  14. mickyfu

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    Well thats it, looks like I'm out.
     
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    inafter 20 posts of the same general message
     
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    To be perfectly honest OP - you'll never get anywhere with this kind of thinking. Just do SOMETHING that can make good money, and stick to it. Make sure it's within your time, money, and ability to accomplish. Read a method or two on the forum, add your own spin on it aka THINK, log your results, see what you did right, and what you did wrong. If you do offline marketing, send direct mail first, THEN do follow up calls. Stay AWAY from emails for right now. The conversion percentage is just abysmal. Put you've got to get off this forum, focus on ONE method, ONE. Just Do It.


    P.S. Your user name is "pennystocks" - Why don't you get into that? Get some money together, and study under someone in the industry like Tim Sykes. Just work.
     
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    In case any of you guys don't feel like reading that massive text block here is the short version:

    He has been a member for 4 years and read a lot, applied some of it and earned some steady money.
    But he has this dark passenger that stops him from progressing and he has to focus on many things at one time.

    Having a hard time taking action like 80% of people who wash up into the business.
     
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