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This is why you should STAY AWAY from "no sample" networks

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Peter Ngo, Jun 22, 2017.

  1. Peter Ngo

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    A few weeks ago, i stumbled and was interested in a 100RD + DA15+ and TF15+ network that i found in BHW marketplace for quite a cheap price. 50% off and blah blah all that.

    So i was curious and asked for a sample, i was sent 2 samples and things got really interesting

    First domain:
    Here is the their anchor cloud:
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    I thought maybe he just forgot to check the anchors, no big deal. So I went ahead and checked the history of the domain and i found this:

    2014:

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    2012:
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    2011:
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    This 1 shitty domains, has been resurrected 3 times from 2012-2014 and now being resurrect by the seller again in 2017. I will let you be the judge.

    2nd domain:
    Anchor cloud:
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    This domain fucking promoted orgasm enhancement pill, not that i discriminate people with this problem but come on, i aint paying for this shit.

    I was curious and checked if this domain was indexed, and i found this"
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    Every single fucking page indexed in the past was hacked and this guy didn't even bother to fix it, not that it matters here since the domain was shit anyway but at least put some effort into their BST.

    I approached the seller and this was his response lol:
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    Do you believe that? Oops

    My thought and advice:
    • Always ask for samples
    • Stay away from "no samples to protect networks" BS, it doesn't work that way, giving sample won't reveal your network unless you are doing a shitty job.
    • Thoroughly check samples quality, if they are too lazy to make those properly, just imagine how they do stuffs behind your back.
    • Try your best to reverse engineer those samples, if it leaves any footprints to their main networks, you know how shitty they are at managing their PBNs.
     

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  2. Blakester

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    That's why I prefer to do a combination of building my own networks along with some PBNs from some really trusted sellers only. And yes, always contact the seller first and trust your gut feeling.

    Thank you for the heads up
     
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  3. I know SEO

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    Can you PM me the sellers thread please?
     
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    But to be honest though, the sellers could easily create 2-3 super high quality samples using super high quality domains and have the rest of their network be shit and spam. I recommend just going for your own private network, since that seems to be the 'safest' and most reliable.
     
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  5. Peter Ngo

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    Yep i will have to agree with you, i also know 1 good seller here that never provide samples, but i knew him long time ago and glad he really know his stuffs :D/

    You are right, this also happened to me once, but you will be surprised how many sellers i have weeded out just from their samples. I do have my own PBNs but for a few churn and burn niches, i just went straight with some PBN for faster testing.
     
  6. MaFiaStyle

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    Obviously the Mod that approved that thread fails in his/her role. #disappointed
     
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    Not really mod mistake, if seller during review process shows good sites and after few days starting selling posts on f*cked sites. OP you better mention seller in your thread.
     
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    OP should provide a link on what thread offers this service so others will have an idea of it. It's not destroying somebody's business. Just warning others on what they should expect.
     
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  9. Peter Ngo

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    I have sent the BST Link to I know SEO, i believe she will get it handled soon :D.
     
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    the mod is not at fault
    the mod only checks if what is advertised is provided
    and if the domain in its current status is looking ok and is not advertised with a good history then there is no fault
     
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    Really great lesson for new buyers and sellers. OP: Thanks for sharing.
     
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    That is two pretty fucked up domains. Looks like the seller just purchased based on metrics and didn't bother to check the backlinks profiles or site history.
     
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    Thank you, it will help a lot people
     
  14. cloudyseo

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    Thanks for taking time to write and share this with us. I gave up on buying anything from the BHW Marketplace long time ago. Very disappointed on how mods are handling the threads there...I mean I know there are some mods working hard to monitor and manage the threads but I hardly see any improvement...or maybe sellers know how to trick "the system"...I really hope in the future that the management will make the Marketplace entry more strict and scam-proof.
     
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    I just got a reply back from someone yesterday i was asking about their service, no samples!
     
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    if s.o. doesnt disclose the domain name before purchase, ask them to get a full ahrefs report on backlinks anchors or wayback stuff..



    however, as stated previous. 3digit- RDs always make me suspious ;)
     
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    Thanks for all the newbie who believe everything written in the BST is true, it makes me thing about these restaurants who make it look like they have a great chef and in reality, they serve highly expensive frozen crap dishes
     
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    please dont spoil the obvious marketing tactics ...
     
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    This BST is completely "fine" because they don't mention that their domains would be spam free. And @I know SEO mentioned in her approval that the domains are spammed. Lesson learned from that is that you never should take anything for granted if it's not mentioned in the sales thread.