This is disgusting...Time for change!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't get my username wrong like I'm a newbie who has just found this forum. I was banned for calling Spammer23 out in this forum a long time ago by saying he wore panties.

There are some things that really aggravate me about this forum. The first thing that comes to mind is the sales pitch that's on like every thread. This forum is supposed to be for the better for everyone. I have never learned anything on this forum that's worth learning that was beneficial to making money over the internet, if anything I've been asked to spend X amount of dollars for the next "Secret" that's supposed to make you money. We all know there's no such thing as a secret that hasn't been done before over the internet. It's bad enough that almost every PPC has the newest secret to making money over the internet. But in forums GEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZ!

Two, I knew Ruck was trying to be a moderator when he stated in a thread,
"Get yourself someone that isn't going to sell to your members and actually
comes to forums looking to help other people. Those are the best type of people to be around. People who go out of their way everyday just to lend a helping hand or looking to engage in friendly conversation. ==>09-07-2007, 03:02 AM". SO SEE THROUGH!!! :AR15firin..........NO Disrespect Ruck I'm just getting some things off my mind.

Three, This forum gets no love on other forum websites like syndk8 dot com. They basically laugh at this forum as not being black hat. Just scan through the website and search some threads. Don't get me wrong I think that Spammer23 gave this forum a bad name but when visitors actually come to this forum and see nothing but threads claiming to make you the next millionaire in 24 hours, who wouldn't laugh and not visit the forum again.

Maybe I'm rubbing some shoulders the wrong way but that's not my intention. I brought these issues to Dave numerous times by PM. I uploaded around 10 different helpful, FREE, software to this forum that was deleted when I was banned earlier this year along with my posts. My only question is why isn't Spammer23 posts deleted from this forum if he was supposedly banned. How is it that everyone else get their posts deleted, but he the worse of all, still have threads posted that links back to his website I believe. Wow, he still get free advertising.......

Anyways, I really do see alot of potential in this forum and with all these moderators changes I still feel that the actual mission of this forum is not being taken seriously. If Dave want this forum to be the way it is now then fine! By the way the main name of this forum is Blackhat and frankly there's nothing Blackhattish about this forum other than the PeeWee's advertising the next big money making scheme misleading and taking money from new users who comes to this forum trying to learn something beneficial.

As Spammer23 would say,

Cheers :rofl:

i did not get your point.. why don't you try to contribute yourself something useful instead of whining so much?

I did contribute alot of useful postings in the past but why post all over again. I'm a firm believer in doing something right the first time or not at all. What's it to you anyway? I'm just speaking my mind. I guess you speaking like that will get you Kudo points from rest of the members of this forum. Maybe, but I'm not here to make friends buddy! What's I've spoken is the truth and quite frankly this forum is sucking big time. By the way you're not the one I'm targeting so keep adding valuable information. I'm specifically talking to the ones who make nickels and sware their making 1,000's a week.

rannybo,
When you were banned before the forum was at it's lowest point. With the addition of Ruck and Luther we are working hard to change this image and the forum for the better. It's not going to happen overnight however there have already been improvements and more is to come. If someone wants to sell something, they now have to be get approval from us before their thread is posted. Spammer23 will have his links deleted in the next 48 hours rest assured.

rannybo, first of all Welcome back, dont recall you because i recently only joined, and at the end of your post it says to those who sware there making 1000s a week that would be pointed at me then?

I understand i read here a lot of people claim to make a lot but then post stupid fucking things that makes me think nah you dont earn much.
This is why i like Earners forum too, because they have avatars that show your earnings, i.e

100-300 per month, 300-1000 per month, 1000-5000 per month right up to 50,000+ per month which im in.
This gives access to whats called a Green lounge (for those who make $50k per month and it is strictly verified my admin team, very hard and strict and a lot of proof needed to get in), with only earners to your equality which in my opinion should be done in most affiliate / blackhat / whitehat forums, because theres a lot of things i would like to share, but dont like sharing with the people who post 1 post, 50 posts (silly ones).

I do like participating here and i check often, ive yet to give back to the (somewhat) good reads, and most of the information i already knew, but hey ive been around in this business a long time, and constantly get new things as i run a lot of SEO related sites too, i also have a lot of people on my contacts that hand me shit on a plate, because i do the same back.

So i am thinking seriously and preparing to give things back.

In my opinion rannybo you say you contributed a lot of useful posts in the past, but why post all over again.

You did things right the first time. Ill be interested in having you back mate.
As you do speak like we could get on.

And i hope this forum does get a lot better than the direction its heading.

"No love".

That was what was on the note left by the mole in the movie "Confessions of A Dangerous Mind".

"No love"?

Gimmee a break.

Rannybo,

We are working hard on trying to clean this place up. I assure you, Dave appointed me as a Moderator because like you I was banned as well for calling Spammer23 out, and because Dave feels I can do a job by helping clean the forum up. I am in here as much as I possibly can between offtime of carrying on my own businesses.

As for the statement you quoted I made, whether you believe it or not, I did not make that statement in hopes of becoming a Moderator. The statement was made at the time because I was like everyone else and wanted to see someone approved on a higher level that would carry out those things.

As a matter of fact, Dave messaged me, I never even applied for the Moderator position.

But all that aside, we are trying and we welcome all suggestions and feedback. As far as other forums laughing at BHW, I do not know why this would be of any concern to you or anyone that is a forum member here or there. I am a forum member there as well. When someone laughs at another forum and someone gets caught up in it, could you explain to me how that is helping anyone? The same applies for threads here that are not in discussion but rather pitches. None of it helps anyone. Your absolutely right about that, and I agree 100%.

So in recap:

1. We are all trying to clean up the place
2. Your statement about me was wrong, no offense taken
3. Nobody cares about what other people think of this forum
or any other
4. I am working feverishly as time will allow to deleted the Spammer23 threads
5. You aren't rubbing shoulders the wrong way, things like this need
to be said, and I personally appreciate it.

Best,
Ruck

Good points Ruck, Im hoping this place gets cleaned up and have offered to help as much as i could myself at any time.

Cant wait to see things great

Well as far as other forums laughing at BHW, I was only referring from a member point of view. It's just like if you're around someone talking about your family or family member. Not to get touchy but its like when you talk about BHW and its members then you were also reffering to me also. So I really don't care about what other forums state about BHW but I kinda of do because I believe alot of people in here have alot to offer than what visitors see when they enter the forum.

I'm not asking anyone to reveal their personal money making secrets for we all have to guard our niches and I've come around to be a pretty good marketer so far but still have alot to learn as internet marketing changes so quickly.

And by the way Ruck, I don't have anything against you, I've even brought software from your website for $7.00 before, I guess I'm was just ventilating and its good to see the top dogs of this forum is listening.

rannybo im glad you brought up some of these points because its the way ive felt lately too in a way.
I think its just a rough stage of the forums life, as most forums get to that stage, i think its the stage before maturing, where it just needs staff to pick up better than ever.

This forum is going to boom any week soon i can feel it, and it will end up being a success or packed with newbies (i know everyone starts from somewhere)

But i think people should understand whitehat before entering blackhat stuff, just my opinion it should be the rules.

anway its 4.28am and i better stop talking crap because i sense that i dont make sense

And once again welcome back mate

It doesn't matter no more for I wasn't happy with my last username anyway. It was my email address that I do not want to post over the forum again.