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Thinking about trying to make money with kindle...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by RakeItIn, Aug 10, 2014.

  1. RakeItIn

    RakeItIn Regular Member

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    I heard about how great it is so I might try it. What I will probably do is outsource the work and publish childrens books. Any of you have any experience with kindle? Any experience with kindle childrens books? Thanks.
     
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    dkwholesales Regular Member

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    Yes, children's books are very popular. What age group were you thinking?
     
  3. RakeItIn

    RakeItIn Regular Member

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    Any age range really, I was just gonna use a service on fiverr and get some kick ass childrens books.
     
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    nikiobicata Regular Member

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    I don't think this two can be in the same sentence! You not going to find what you looking for on fiverr for $5
     
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  5. RakeItIn

    RakeItIn Regular Member

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    Well the service is specifically for childrens books so I'm going to buy like 8 of them and have them write a semi-long childrens book
     
  6. SirSmash

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    So far my experience on Kindle has completely blown ass, it hasn't kicked ass at all with three books getting a couple sales per month at most. I'll give it a couple more months but so far it looks like a total dud.

    Been trying to find a way to make money without eBay and their shit-tastic way of doing business, I make good money when they aren't dicking around but it's starting to get really annoying. I'd rather cut my living expenses down to the bare minimum than keep dealing with eBay's crap.

    Kindle seemed like a good option being that I do enjoy writing. Either I'm doing something wrong or everyone saying they make a living with this is full of shit. I gather it's probably a mix of the two.
     
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    Well, it depends on your chosen target market while you go for Kindle. Making children's books can be practical. However, if you are going to outsource, make sure that you get it from the best ones. Well, they are easy to write and it is very easy to sell them.
     
  8. Alkanphel

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    It's a numbers game, you may have to pump out 5-10+ books and they won't sell that well if at all. However, once one sells well, the rest seem to follow. You need to make sure you get links in your book to reference your other books or use the same Pen name.

    Don't give up after 1 book either, because there is a good chance it won't sell well strait off the bat.
     
  9. RakeItIn

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    Is there any sort of kindle review exchange?
     
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  10. Final Infinity

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    I know some people here in the forum have been exchanging reviews but be very carefully not to get caught or Amazon will bann you. I would imagine that its easy to make the connection if several sellers exchange reviews, even if you are actually buying the books.
     
  11. GringoMonkey

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    I make quite a lot of money with Kindle and amongst the things I sell are childrens books.

    Before outsourcing your writing you should do 2 things.

    1. Research the the genre so you know there is demand for a childrens book in that area.

    2. Ask any potential outsourcer to provide a writing sample before you order to check their abilities. Just because someone says they can do something on fiverr does not mean they actually can.
     
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  12. Pokemat

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    Since i'm not a native english speaker, I wonder if it's better to start selling in my monther tongue (where the competition is really low at the time I write this post) or if it's better to directly fight in the big boys arena (I mean the english-reader market)
     
  13. Phoenix7813

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    I've wanted to be a writer since I could remember. So all this Kindle stuff is very interesting to me. My issue is that I wouldn't want to spend weeks or even months writing an epic novel only to have it flop and do nothing. So my theory for Kindle was that I would work on some shorter stories first. That way I could crank them out and see how they do. If things go well then I'd be more inclined to invest my time in my longer stories.

    But what I'm wondering about is length. I've heard people say there is no word length requirement for Kindle. And I see that when books are displayed on Kindle they list approx page lengths. I just can't see it being very attractive looking at a 10 page fiction book. Maybe at .99c but even then...

    Anyone have input on fiction short lengths? What works? What's too short?

    I've also seen that a lot of people focus on outsourcing non fiction 'guide' type books. Not saying I'd never try that but that's not what I am aiming to do. I actually want to be the writer. :p So any tips/info more geared towards actual fiction writing would be awesome.
     
  14. GringoMonkey

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    You need to research a genre that sells and see what is the expected book length in that. Then choose one that the top selling books are short.

    I have a lot of short fiction stories and they do well.

    All my books are outsourced, that way I can typically upload at least 1 new book everyday.
     
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    Wow! You are uploading ONE book a day? Awesome!
    May I ask
    1.) how much do you usually pay for the books?
    2.) where do you usually find your outsourcers? Can you trust them?

    The problem I seems to have is that as soon as I hire a writer and I send them the Outline of my story I never hear from them again! It's like they are stealing my ideas/stories or so...
    Even when I pay to the escrow, they just simply don't claim the money, but they already have my story :(
     
  16. GringoMonkey

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    I don't go anywhere anyone doesn't go to find writers, all the freelance sites.

    But outsourcing is a skill on its own, it took a long time to build a system of finding quality reliable writers.
    The first thing you should do is ask them for a sample.

    Most either:
    a) don't want to send one
    b) if they do it is rubbish

    That means you can get a list of writers who can at least write and are prepared to answer questions.

    In terms of cost when you do your niche research you need to have an idea of what it will sell for, then you can negotiate price based on that. Some are worth more than others.
     
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  17. Narisu

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    How do you typically find a profitable niche on amazon kindle? Do you just think of potential categories then look up the related keywords on amazon for competitor's book's ranks?
     
  18. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    @RakeItIn:

    Take a look at the thread HERE created by one of our members (GobBluthJD).

    Very informative and I am confident that you will find many answers to questions
    you may have in regards to the creation and marketing of Kindle Ebooks.

    Cheers! :)
     
  19. funkybunker

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    Same as any other market, people don't want to admit their product isn't selling because it genuinely sucks. When I see new kids want to start in the "Childrens Books" category, they're assuming kids are retarded and will buy anything. You still need to write a quality book(s) and what REALLY helps is building hype by sharing it with influencers.
     
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    I have this kiddies kind of sci fi book and in 3 years not 1 sale