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Thinking about launching a negative SEO campaign against webcam studio I did SEO coaching.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by CrazyCat, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. CrazyCat

    CrazyCat Newbie

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    Fraud Alert: Stay away from Whitlock Studios if you are considering being a webcam model. They will scam you. I am IT and they screwed me.

    I just want to say first off I read numerous scholarly research papers in a graduate course in college and on my own. I prepared a presentation to someone expressing interest in SEO. They started a webcam modeling studio, Whitlock Studios. Me being naive to the ways of the adult industry, I fell for this webcam modeling studio's hustle and ending up giving a presentation to them for free even though I told them my rate. To make matters worse, they told me in writing in tweets I would receive compensation if I get them to Google's first page organically using white hat. Of course my email to them now that they are there on first page fell in deaf ears and we are not communicating at all after a falling out. I never trusted them really. I guess it was a learning lesson about the ways of the adult industry and getting payment upfront and ignoring hustles and flirting. The question I am asking I would like to launch a legal negative campaign. What about just bombing their competitors with back-links would that be the best approach? I already e-mailed out my research to their competitors but appears the first page contains those sites that used it including the person that screwed me. One competitor got real cocky and said "Thanks but no thanks, I am first on Google and just me and my computer did that". They are now on page three.

    **Update: Decided to go with the advice in the thread and go with truthful negative reviews as oppose to a negative SEO campaign.
     
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    So did you actually do any work for them?
     
  3. tzbt827

    tzbt827 Regular Member

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    I wouldn't recommend neg-SEO as it is pretty scumbag, but there are numerous ways to do it.

    I'm not going to say here, you'll find it somewhere on this forum.
     
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    Leave Bad TRUTHFUL Reviews and let them deal with the damage. Be choosy in your words as you want to inflict the most damage possible but by being honest. (make sure reviews can be deleted, this for many reasons but the main one is if they decide to pay you and fix the wrongs)

    Instead of writing "hey they ripped me off"

    Right something that will scare their consumers.

    "FRAUD ALERT- BlankWebsite took my confidential information and screwed me over financially."
    "DO not Trust with personal information at risk! Webcam SCAM!! READ TOS before signing up they can rip you off like they did me"


    (there is nothing wrong with leaving the truth if it is indeed honest. I also hate doing business with shady idiots who do not pay and think they can hide behind their keyboard) I would call them every day on principle alone. I would however not recommend Nge SEO as then your time goes to revenge and that breeds a bad mentality for SEO.
     
  5. CrazyCat

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    I agree, bad truthful reviews is the best way to deal with this considering the amount of scammers within that industry. To answer your question, yes I did. I told him what to do based on all my research and gave them a presentation. I didn't make direct changes to their website, which of course you know is nothing when you are using Wix's web editor. It takes nothing at all to make changes. I charge $30 an hour to tutor. I have a master's degree in computer science. I know neg-SEO scumbag and I almost did it using a spammy link on a forum. I opted for a very negative review. I am IT and they screwed me, couldn't imagine if I was in the adult world.
     
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  6. CrazyCat

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    To answer your question yes I did. I told them what to do, they made the changes using their simple to use web editor. If you ever used it, you would realize how easy it is to use. They had no clue about SEO at all. I read several IEEE articles and other materials which they could never decipher and gave them a presentation. They promised before I did all that I would get something when they go to Google's first page. I should have rejected that and opted for pre-payment or nothing at all. I have a master's degree in CS and tutor.
     
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  7. dennis_797

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    I know this sort of thing happens and the people that do it are pretty low, but I would just move on.

    You've learnt a lesson and you won't be scammed this way again for the rest of your IM career.

    Too much negativity and bitterness can throw you off course. What happened happened. If you negative SEO then you're using all your effort bringing someone down rather than boosting yourself forward.
     
  8. IMpossible

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    Wasn't NegSEO-based talk forbidden at BHW? Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  9. CrazyCat

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    True, very true. I won't be scammed like this again. This is what I am going to charge, and pay it upfront. No more, see if it works and if it does you get a reward. That don't fly. I certainly learned a lot more about SEO especially from the journal papers I read where they reverse-engineered Google to find out what they care about most. It was also great experience for me on what influences Google's ranking. It is irritating to see someone on Google's first page and know they could never have done that without me and I got nothing in return.

    Oh and by the way, anyone thinking of webcam modeling, stay away from Whitlock Studios lol.
     
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  10. CrazyCat

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    I said I was thinking about it but never did it. I don't think we are talking about actual techniques.
     
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    The thing is that as soon as people read the word "negative SEO" they become curious and want to "give it a try also". We need to stop this. Please don't take this offensive.
     
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    You got them up on the first page, so just email them, if they don't pay their debt, you will bring them down again, for good now.
     
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    I wouldn't publicly post anything about you doing damage to anyone's company - I'm sure you don't need the headache of a lawsuit.
     
  14. CrazyCat

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    I tried that. I told them personal feelings aside, you did make a written contract (it was a written promise). with me. I received no response. They do not want me to contact them, we had a dispute a couple weeks ago.
     
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    I am sure the Virginia courts will love them distributing live porn and recruiting others to do it to. I decided against launching a neg-SEO campaign on them. They tried to pay for IT services with a "sexy video and signed personal items" I promptly rejected. I don't want to do damage, just undo what I did since I didn't get what was promised.
     
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  16. Biznik

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    Take the video and items and then get revenge :)
     
  17. CrazyCat

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    Oh I got things I can do for revenge already. Just depends on how low I want to go. Do you think it would be warranted to post bad reviews on YouTube videos they posted under their real name? I told them their real name was all over external links on their site and their address was on Google maps and they accused me of stalking! Bad enough their whole life is on social media.
     
  18. CrazyCat

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    I decided against the negative SEO campaign and go with truthful negative reviews.