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Think Twice When You Sell Replica Items Online!!!!

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by yuemyutu, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. yuemyutu

    yuemyutu Registered Member

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    Be careful when you are selling replica items on the internet. Big companies have hard working staffs to find wheather you sell replica or not. Their employees come to your site, buy your items as an ordinary customer. They record every steps with a video recorder. When they recieve the product that they bought....BOOMM!! You wouldn't be in that situation. Trust me. I was trying to sell replica online. Luckly I got caught before I sell any. After long time emailing process, I convinced them that I did not sell any items. Here is the email of one of the big trade mark that I received. Read it and think about selling replica items twice.
    *****************************************************
    It has come to our attention that you have been advertising and
    offering for sale products which bear counterfeit ****** marks. We are
    aware that you have advertised and sold these goods through www.********.com

    Your conduct in offering for sale and selling unauthorized
    products bearing the ***** Marks constitutes civil trademark
    counterfeiting under state and federal law and may also subject you to
    criminal penalties. The civil remedies available to ****** may include
    the seizure and destruction of your goods, an injunction prohibiting
    your further use of the ***** Marks, payment of ******'s attorney fees,
    and payment to us of three times the amount of money that you made
    from your sale of counterfeit ****** merchandise.

    In view of the foregoing, we request that you provide us with the
    following information if you are inclined to resolve this matter on an
    amicable basis:

    1. The identity of the source of all products that you have offered to
    sell or sold bearing the **** Marks;

    2. A description of all products that you have sold bearing the *****
    Marks;

    3. An accounting of all products sold bearing the ***** Marks,
    including the number of products sold, your purchase price for each
    piece of merchandise you sold, and the sale price that you received for
    each item sold;

    4. A detailed list of all products that you have in inventory bearing
    the ***** Marks and the location of the inventory;

    5. The names of all purchasers to whom you have sold the counterfeit
    ****** products.

    In addition to this information we must receive from you a written
    representation that you will:

    a. cease and desist from your sale of counterfeit or unauthorized
    merchandise bearing the ***** Marks;

    b. deliver up to us for destruction all remaining inventory that you
    have of good bearing the ***** Marks;

    c. reimburse ***** for all monies spent in investigating your sale of
    counterfeit or unauthorized merchandise bearing the ******* Marks; and

    d. provide payment to ****** of all monies you received from the sale of
    said merchandise.

    We anticipate receiving the requested information, materials and
    representations from you within two (2) weeks of the date of this
    letter. If such is not the case, we will have no alternative but to
    refer this matter for further legal action.
     
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  2. Rambo

    Rambo BANNED BANNED

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    Thanks for the heads up mate! Yup the companies are definately increasing their crackdown on replica items and rightly so I suppose. They are losing millions and millions every year as a result of these replicas.
     
  3. themagician

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    ...It is a constant disappointment to me that here in Thailand, I can purchase replica goods that are of such high-quality they defy being found out as knock-offs and I dare not sell them on eBay. If I could and get away with it, I would be a squillionaire!

    As for the Big Brother tactics you outline in your post, from a legal point of view, it is a request you can ignore and you can tell them to get stuffed. You will get banned anyway, if caught, and have to start a new account, but they have no right to ask such questions, especially as you say you never sold anything.

    themagician
     
  4. yuemyutu

    yuemyutu Registered Member

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    I think they have the rights to ask those questions because they want to make sure that you sell their products for a reasonable price and if you could provide a good customer service after the product is sold. They want to protect their company image that they've created for so long.

    And also I must add that the big brother post has nothing to do replica items. It is all about real products. That's why I'm looking for a eligible person in the U.S to run that business legally. I received that email 6 months ago.
     
  5. a0rta

    a0rta Regular Member

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    In Sweden it's illegal to sell replicas if it's an organized selling. If you on another hand just have bought a couple of copies for your own use and then try to sell them it's not illegal. The hard part for the authorities is to figure out how organized the selling is. Anyone who are selling replicas for a living or are making a significant income from it, then it's probably illegal. So the question here is... What if setting up a site with a .se (Sweden) domain, using that domain for "more info" and then selling over Ebay? If one can make it look like it's shipped from Sweden in the Ebay auction even though it's shipped from within US it will be extreamly hard to catch one. Also laws in Sweden makes it impossible for companies to get out any information about the person who owns the domain (if registered anomalously) and if not a crime have been committed that can give the owner of the domain more then 2 years in prison. Selling pirate copies if not mass importing won't get one into prison for that long time in Sweden.

    I think that the manufactures of the original products won't go hunting anyone without knowing their possibilities first. If it's a Swedish seller they would most likely inform their Swedish department/agent or what ever they use, first. And I don't think anything will ever happen except that one will get some angry mails from them trying to scare one off the market.
     
  6. a0rta

    a0rta Regular Member

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    I also think that the mail you got is more of a scare tactic. The brand owner won't take everyone to court. It will cost them too much and if winning and the seller of replicas don't have money to pay the court cost, lawyers costs etc it will cost the brand owner a lot of money. They will most likely try to send as many of those mails as possible and scare sellers of the market. Maybe they go hunting a few later on if they continue selling replicas after being informed that it's illegal from the brand owner.

    But who knows.. Maybe I am wrong. The ones who ends up in jail got to see ;)
     
  7. yuemyutu

    yuemyutu Registered Member

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    Maybe in Sweden it is hard to track and find the domain owner's contact information. But here in USA, it is damn easy I think. Why I am sayin this beacuse eventhough I registered my doamin privately, they found all my contact information, my home adress, phone number, Name, my university email(I am the only one who know my university email adress). It is more than a scary thing. This is not a joke. Be careful..
     
  8. ahaobsh1450

    ahaobsh1450 Newbie

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    I got the same email from Chane!, thats why i stopped selling replicas on my site..
     
  9. Therookie

    Therookie BANNED BANNED

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    How come I have seen replica sites for three odd years?
    Why are they still up??

    Also the part purpose of replica items is to show that they can be manufactured cheaply and not have the heavy branded price these companies put on products.
    Also why has nobody advertised on my replica auction site yet? :)))))))
     
  10. Rambo

    Rambo BANNED BANNED

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    Yes replicas are good for some people who cannot afford the real thing but these companies like Louis Vuitton have every right to sue and enforce copyright laws.

    Maybe those sites are offshore or something? Or they may have not been caught yet so it may just be luck.

    Stay away from replicas - just a long and dirty road.

    Just my 2 pence.
     
  11. MR.blackhat

    MR.blackhat Regular Member

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    Thanks for saving my life!!!

    I was going to start selling replicas.

    THANKS
     
  12. ahaobsh1450

    ahaobsh1450 Newbie

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    100% agree with you! I've tried it and in the long run you will get caught no matter what... The sites that are still up, are sites hosted from china, which have different ip laws..
     
  13. BuzzKill

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    I believe that a judge just ruled that Ebay is not responsible for damages for selling knock offs. The lawsuit was from Tiffanys.

    hxxp://money.cnn.com/2008/07/14/technology/ebay_tiffany.ap/index.htm?section=money_latest
     
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    wow, iv been selling replica's for the last 2 years never had a issue, but thanks for mentioning it.
     
  15. ahaobsh1450

    ahaobsh1450 Newbie

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    do you sell on a website, or ebay?
     
  16. pussyback

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    I get those emails all the time just hit the delete button !! works great for me so far
     
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    yuemyutu Registered Member

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    Woww, I didn't know that solution. If I knew, I would definetly use it. Thanks for the great tip. Muhahahahahaha:D:D
     
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    yeah man, im not worried about Nike or none of them companies if I walked around scared all the time, I would never make any money. The only thing u gotta remember is make sure u covered all your basic's. 1.) If your going to sell replica's use a offshore hosting service. 2.) Make sure you use a offshore merchant account to accept visa and mastercard for payments, now if u wanna make it really sweet, get a offshore bank account and connect the merchant account to that bank account so that the deposits never touch a domestic US bank account. 3.) make sure you have a reliable supplier that carry Grade AAA replicas please don't sell crap to customers. Contrary to popular belief most people will buy replicas as long as they can not tell the diffrence. 4.) Always dropship NEVER and I repeat NEVER ship things to your home. The first reason is because it makes it easier to clear customs the second reason is if u get to big for your britches Nike or whoever will be looking for u.
    However they will have to prove that your trafficking counterfeit goods...that's really hard to do the goods were sent from another country directly to the customer. Last but not least make sure its ok for your supplier to accept returns if customers have problems this will make your life much easier.
     
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    They arent losing millions. Because people are buying replicas because they cant afford it in the 1st place, thus, would had never bought it
     
  20. bigtek

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    You can sell replicas safely online, theres plently of people making lots of $$$ in this biz. You just have to understand the business to do it safely.