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there should be people coaching in BHW for a price , or are there any

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  1. aetroijg

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    i like to say some people giving coaching to other (not for free) but for fee according their coaching effectiveness.

    or there should be a different section for coaching , where we can select different coaching and learn.

    i don't know this is good , and not many people like to share secret methods , but there are many members who now have entered into different ventures , leaving back their old methods and that are good and still effective.

    this way they can make money too , and help others too.

    just a though , now please don't start criticizing me , i hate it and makes me feel bad

    thank you.
     
  2. jonnyh431

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    I'm pretty sure there's some e-courses knocking around on here...
     
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  4. davejug1

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    No criticism here, but think of it like this, do you want coaching from someone earning 10 bucks a day, 100 bucks a day or 1000+ bucks a day? If you want coaching from someone who earns 2K a day, then if it takes 2 days to teach you all his stuff he's going to want at least 4K off you to make it worth his while. You get what you pay for (usually) and if you can only afford 10 bucks you are going to be coached at that same level
     
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    i never said 10$ , that is for some shitty ebooks and that even in DP.

    i know a good coaching comes at good cost.

    i am ready to see any cost coaching , and thats effective.

    i have seen 500$ coaching , 100$ coaching and once i was ready to enroll in them ,but due to some difficulties , i couldn't enroll in.



     
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    yes , thats good , this way no crap coaching would be sold here.

    only membrs that have permission of site admin will be able to coach. this can make it too good.


     
  7. The Scarlet Pimp

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    how about 'open coaching'? start a thread that teaches people how to do something.
    field questions, give advice and tips, offer strategies, etc.
     
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    well this whole forum is type of open coaching. it isn't needed.
    what will be good , a small sub -section type where we can find paid coaching by different members , like in BST thread.
     
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    Just read it all...
     
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    I disagree... to have someone walk you through the process and get you earning money right away is priceless. It's easy to get frustrated or dispirited trying to apply these methods on your own.
     
  11. The Scarlet Pimp

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    yes, having somebody show you how to do something step-by-step is better than reading general info and then trying to understand it.
     
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    I believe that this may be part of the problem. Most people don't realize the difference between coaching and consulting. If you want someone to give you some general information, answer a few general questions to help you stay on the right path then you have coaching. Coaches are someone you can bounce ideas off of. Think "psychologist" who will frustrate the hell out of you when you want an answer and for them to tell you what to do and all they do is give you more questions. :rolleyes:

    Consulting on the other hand is a "step-by-step-follow-the-dots" system. It has specific "how to do" something rather than "what to do".

    If you came to me and said you had a business installing luxury pools and wanted to hire me as a consultant to show you how to promote your business -- I would create a "step-by-step-follow-the-dots" system for promoting your business and ensuring it's profitability.

    However, if you came to me and asked me to coach you. Then we would set up a communication system where for an hourly or monthly fee you could contact me and ask me what I thought about ideas you had and offer some ides of my own. In this case I'm not the creator of the system. I'm simply providing you my thoughts and opinions based upon my past experience.

    Obviously you're going to be charged a lot more for consulting than for coaching. I train a lot of my marketing consultants, helping them to get started wit their first client. As a consultant I charge $2500 to teach them the blueprint plus residuals. As a coach, you only get the hourly fee.

    Another difference is that in the case of a marketing consultant -- they have experience in a lot of different areas. Which is why they're expensive and can easily move from one area to another. Coaches on the other hand tend to be "one trick ponies", like "idiot savants" they're only good in one area.

    If someone is claiming to offer to teach you the "step-by-step-follow-the-dots" system and they call themselves a coach then you may want to look elsewhere because they obviously don't know the difference. And, if they don't know the difference on this level then chances are they don't know enough to teach you what you really want to learn.
     
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  13. havokb8

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    I strongly disagree. I think people should be able to make their own methods or perfect the ones that are on here and various places.
     
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