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There is nothing blackhat in blackhat SEO section anymore, GG Google.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by worldismine, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. worldismine

    worldismine Regular Member

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    You have to admit, Google has stiffed us all. Notice most post penguin threads here....

    "Write quality content"
    "natural backlinks"
    "don't copy"
    "case study, I spend 100 hours writing original articles"
    etc..
    etc..

    I was mostly WH all my life but I did like to boost my sites via BH methods from time to time, but now this section has nothing to offer :(
    Google has this section by the balls.
     
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  2. worldismine

    worldismine Regular Member

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    Penguin killed my sites, I went from X,XXX a month to XX. And they have been operating for years. Mostly WH. Fuck Google.
     
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    matt cutts bhw revealed
    ok matt dont be shy
     
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  5. worldismine

    worldismine Regular Member

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    Dang I've been spotted :x
     
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    Yup, simply put, google is filling up what they believe to be the flaws in their program. it was bound to happen sooner or later :/
     
  7. BlueOrchard

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    Sad but true :(

    I remember the time where I came here and everyone shared juicy stuff like how to make proper link pyramids, blog comment templates, etc. Nowadays, it's pretty much all White Hat SEO, where uniqueness and quality is everything.
     
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  8. Tensegrity

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    I dunno what you guys are talking about. "Black hat seo" means breaking google tos and there's tons of that here, you just must be blind or something.

    Plus, I do it all the time and my sites are ranking very well and pulling in money.

    Anyone who says black hat is dead is just not doing it right, plain and simple.
     
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  9. BlueOrchard

    BlueOrchard Regular Member

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    I guess you may be right. I never really did do blackhat seo, so I don't really have a first hand experience with it. However, from what most people are saying, black hat SEO is becoming increasingly difficult to do, up to the point where it's not even worth it because of how time consuming it is, and how high the stakes are thanks to the new Google updates, hence "black hat SEO is dying".
     
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    I'm sorry man, but that is pure BS. It's your way of saying "I give up."

    Black hat has always been risky, that's why it's black hat. You shouldn't be doing blackhat on a site that is responsible for your livelihood. You should be doing it on sites that you are willing to risk. It's always been that way, nothing has changed.

    Black hat is a concept. It can't die, it'll only evolve.
     
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  11. sniper272

    sniper272 Regular Member

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    agree'd with above post i have a site built with blackhat and whitehat tactics and its ranking #3 pulling me a steady $40 a day and has done for the past 16 months sure it dances abit when penguin and panda hit but its still in top 3 :)
     
  12. BlueOrchard

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    Not my way bro, I'm almost all whitehat, and doing fairly decently.

    Yeah I completely agree with you. I bought about 4-5 MNS sites, and I am currently waiting for them to be finished building so I can finally do some crazy stuff I never wanted to do on my authority site.
     
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    I'm not sure I would say black hat is dying as much as possibly thinning out the herd... I am also under the belief that the truly black hat methods that can possibly earn endless amounts of income are not going to shared on any forum for fear of their income stream closing...



     
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    The most annoying thing is Google in an attempt to get rid of blackhat is penalising webmasters doing WH. I don't do much SEO but I have seen my friends who poured their life and soul into their sites with 100s (and even thousands) of pages of quality original content going from 5-10k visits a day to 50-100 a day, ouch !!
     
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  15. worldismine

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    This.
     
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    It may be annoying, but it's just Google trying to give their users the best experience. A google 'user' is typically someone who is just trying to get some information fast, and if they end up on a site that is misleading, full of ads, hard to navigate, written by someone with an elementary school (or below) english speaking level, or otherwise wastes the users time, it becomes a site that Google doesn't want to give prominence to. So all those sites that people are calling 'white hat' may be WH according to seo standards, but not usability. That seems to be the issue that people are completely missing.

    But really, I have no idea why anyone doing white hat or concerned about their white hat site is even on BHW. This is a site for people who break TOS willingly and risk their accounts getting banned, etc. It's about learning how to get around the pitfalls of breaking the rules. So why are you complaining about your white hat site getting penalized here? Maybe go to another forum that is geared more towards white hat, or (here's an idea) post in the WHITE HAT section of this site? Heh...
     
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    Nothing lasts forever. You either evolve and adapt or die.

    Deal with it.
     
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    I disagree with one part of what you said, and that's this:

    "Google trying to give their users the best experience."

    Google doesn't give a damn about user experience. They simply want money, and that's all they care about. They are not an ethical or moral company.

    They ban businesses; legit ones as well, with no excuse or reasoning.

    They demand a website that is "user-friendly" but never tell you what that is. Their guidelines are super vague, and they place an emphasis on backlinks to rank.

    Their emphasis is not on content but links, so as long as they follow that rule, many are not going to focus on "user-friendly" websites; these are the people that rank.
     
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    the op is right. seo is not like before. a stable income cannot be achieved because of large ranking fluctuations
     
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    SEO isn't dead, obviously, but the way to do long-term SEO, I think, is different now. Qualitatively different, not just "evolved." It was possible to have just one website and keep everything pearly white hat and slowly climb the ranks. That used to be the "right" way to do things and it took a long time and a lot of money but it eventually would pay off. I don't think that strategy is viable anymore. The sweet spot is now somewhere in between white hat authority sites and churn and burn.
     
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