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The weirdest shit ever...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by the_demon, Mar 4, 2009.

  1. the_demon

    the_demon Jr. Executive VIP

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    OK so I'm running vista ultimate and for the past 3 hours all programs stopped working except for some basic low level windows system things such as:

    taskmanager
    msconfig
    system restore

    and a few other ones. After many restarts, shutdowns, logoffs, etc. And a few windows diagnostics tools... Things slowly began to come "back to life". I have been using my laptop all day perfectly without any problems and this just happened all of the sudden. I had turned it off properly while I went out for a few hours. Turn it back on so I could logon to my favorite site *BHW* of course, and noticed the internet that when i clicked firefox it stopped working (wouldn't even open or load or show up in task manager), then i started trying other programs, ever one failed except for the above list and a few basic others. Thought maybe it was an icon issue so i went directly to the program folders and was able to navigate not launch anything inside!

    Virus is highly unlikely!!!

    If you know me you'd know why. (get's complicated nor do I want to start bragging)

    This has never happened though... well, not this bad. Has this happened to anyone before. Things just randomly stop working for hours and magically fix themselves after a lot of restarts, etc.(see above)

    Anyone know the cause? I got some lame @$$ windows forums that didn't answer the question.

    *If you noticed me on BHW while computer was down in that 3 hour span I was using my linux partition.

    Preemptive answers to questions:
    - Yes I'm running a legit Vista Ultimate (came w/ the laptop)
    - Yes I have Virus scanner(s) (very good ones not your crappy norton)
    - Yes I have an active firewall (very strong settings and custom config)
    - Yes, I am highly! Tech Savy. So no this isn't a n00b problem.
    - Yes I use firefox with (some might say excessive amounts) of security plugins
    - Yes, I actively keep my computer running smooth with programs like CCleaner and the like.
     
  2. jasonac2

    jasonac2 Junior Member

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    I'd like to say, just because you scanned for viruses that doesn't mean you don't have any. Almost all experts agree than you need more than one scanner to find all viruses/malware/trojans etc. Even if you've payed money for a very good scanner.

    Then again, I agree, I don't think it's a virus. Perhaps it's something to do with the registry.

    Also, you might not like this solution, but I recommend doing a complete reformat every 6 - 10 months to avoid these types of problems. Reformatting only takes about 2 - 3 hours (that including installing all your programs again).
     
  3. STBNetwork

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    if your anti virus is AVG then you have a virus.

    i have an avg pro subscription i abandoned because stuff kept slipping past it.
     
  4. Essential Clix

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  5. the_demon

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    Well the reason I wasn't worried about viruses is because I mainly stay on safe sites. I have WOT, noscript, adblock, flashblock. Anti Virus, Firewall, etc. So it's nearly impossible for a virus to even execute. I will take what you guys said into consideration though.

    PS: Yes I use more than one AV app.

    @Essential Clicks: I like your list. Those are some of my favorites.

    @SBT... : Yeah, AVG is ok but certainly not my first choice.

    @jasonac2: Actually, I do typically reformat around that often because of the mass volume of files I work with... So I off load the data then reformat, reinstall, and add necessary files back and keep others in separate hard drives.

    Usually, I just redo a computer ground up when it starts acting up. Takes 30min to reinstall windows and then a few hours to reinstall programs. Much more time effective then trying to find a virus.* And it's obviously more thorough.

    * Generally speaking
     
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  6. thomas

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    You also can take a look at System Safely Monitor program, it shows what processes are running and if any exe has anything else binded to them. Can see which and were a process installs and what it executes.No program can hide from the SSM since it will show every time a new process is run and what exactly it does, you have the option to allow or not allow it.

    Having all those antivirus programs wont you help much if you are dealing with a new trojan etc. All antivirus programs are working with virus definitions, if a trojan is crypted can be made 100% FUD and wont be reconized by the usual virus definition databases, even firewall wont help you,maybe being behind a router helps more yet not 100%.

    IMHO antivirus are close to useless, they eat your resources like hell, and they only can help people who are new to computers , defending you in face of lame usual viruses from browsing E.g porn sites blah blah, but when it comes to computer security they can't do shit about it.
     
  7. hawke

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    Do a system restore, from before this started to happen. Preferably from at least a couple of days before hand.
     
  8. FreeTheTV

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    Get a Mac. Problem solved. Bootcamp it if you can't bear to live without viruses.