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The website have 0 Backlinks but ranking #2 on medium competition keyword???

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Penumbra, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. Penumbra

    Penumbra Power Member

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    How is it possible i checked with majesticseo and ahrefs and 0 backlinks but he is ranking #2 for 60k searches per month.
    I even checked website with quotes on google to check but no PBN or any backlink. I was thinking maybe he use 301 redirect but not sure about it.
    If someone want to take a look to try to discover what is this PM me.
     
  2. lucasbraydon

    lucasbraydon Supreme Member

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    What if I told you that you can hide your backlinks, would you believe me?
     
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  3. Penumbra

    Penumbra Power Member

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    I know that you block Bots from example majestic seo and ahrefs, but you can't from google. If you block google bot your backlink will not count.
     
  4. kerbat

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    Seeing things done here on BHW by members, I would think and believe that it can be done. Though I honestly don't know how it is achieved to the point where majesticseo and ahrefs won't show them.
     
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    wizard04 Elite Member

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    Did you check the domain root backlink structure. If a website has high DA and PA they can rank easy keywords with no backlinks and few social signals.
     
  6. Penumbra

    Penumbra Power Member

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    Yes i checked Domain has no DA/PA , it's like few weeks old. And there is no innerpages it's like only one landing page on root targeting specific keyword.
     
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    How many articles it has? What the length of the contents? Is it well structured on page seo? Also how long has it ranked on that position?
     
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    If the site is using pbn that blocked backlinks checkers, how do you want to see the links? And what that has to do with google indexing the backlinks?
     
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    The website owner must have hid his backlinks from majestic seo and other backlinks checkers?

    But you can easily use google webmaster tools to see the backlinks
     
  10. Penumbra

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    It's like 600 word article, only one page, and he was ranked on google.com from yesterday on google.co.uk from like 3-4 days.

    I even checked on google manually and no sign of PBN.
     
  11. itchy

    itchy Newbie

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    the owner is sending links to a 301 domain and redirecting that to the money site.

    the 301 is cloaked to only allow googlebot to crawl (hides links/301 to ahrefs etc).

    links don't show up in google because they don't point to money site they point to the 301domain.

    if you know the 301domain you can search for the links in google!
     
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  12. Penumbra

    Penumbra Power Member

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    But why 301 domain won't show in google.
     
  13. itchy

    itchy Newbie

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    why would 301 domain show up? what search are you using?

    301 is moved permanently, as far as google is concerned the domain is gone, reroute all to moneysite. a 301 is a header not a link. as far as i know headers dont show up in google?
     
  14. Ilishev

    Ilishev Newbie

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    Start working! Find your own way to rank your sites! You don't need to know his way!
     
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    Not sure if he is ready for that truth yet.
     
  16. Dronnie

    Dronnie Newbie

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    Am I missing something, you cna use GWMT to check other peoples links??
     
  17. WebTG

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    It seems interesting, could you pm me details so i can check it myself and if i found some backlinks or relevancy then i will update it here.
     
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    Hi pal, I would like to know more about it but I don't understand, could you help? Maybe a link with a easy explanation? Thanks a lot...
     
  19. lilmasta

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    i would like to have a look at the site if you dont mind OP
     
  20. Garryr

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    I agree, he can use 301 redirect, but what about social signals (FB, TW, G+). Can it work?