The vaccine is rolling out

Preon · Dec 14, 2020

statsers said:
Didn't I told you not to quote me or to speak to me again?

Yeah, but the stuff you post is so entertaining I can't help myself.

nakamura · Dec 14, 2020

Thank you for saving humanity Pfizer and Biontech. They are so generous and selfless. We are so lucky Pharma companies have no lobbyists, no involvement in politics and they only care how many lives they can save. It was such a big surprise that after Phizer/Biontech announced their vaccine, suddenly many other companies announced their vaccine as well. They are working so hard and I don't think it has anything to do with competition or "who sells the vaccine first".

I can't wait for the pandemic to vanish so we can start the new normal. And to those who are not going to take the vaccine or even question the vaccine...listen...you guys should get an extra status on BHW "Anti-vaxxer" so everyone knows who you are! This virus is extremely dangerous. It is so dangerous that most of the people don't even know they are infected!

Preon · Dec 14, 2020

statsers said:
I have a low tollerance for a little fairy trolls like you and him. Go downstairs and ask your mama to make you a sandwitch.

Brilliant. If all else fails, resort to insults.

I can do that too.

Somewhere out in the world, there's a tree producing valuable oxygen you're wasting. I think you should go out into the woods and apologies to it.

Takoona · Dec 14, 2020

jonnyah said:
You need to look at this data with the normal occurrence of these symptoms in the general population.

For Bell's palsy example, the normal incidence of Bell's palsy is roughly 20 people out of 100,000. So 4 out of 40,000 is tracking exactly in line with the general population.

Just because someone crashed their car during the covid trial doesn't mean the covid trial caused the crash.

The FDA tracks these things so that they can spot trends and identify issues.

They also disclose this information in part so they can't be accused of covering up information.

Yes, but due to the fact that this is the fastest produced vaccine in history, and vaccines usually take many years to perfect (and even then still have high adverse effects), I would definitely err on the side of caution. Also, if these adverse reactions were just coincidence, and the vaccine is completely safe, then why have all vaccine producers been made exempt from any liability.

Furthermore. Before the vaccine every death was being blamed on covid (and still are to keep the numbers up). It's actually a running joke. But now the vaccine is here, any adverse reactions that could be vaccine related are now being blamed on the "normal" run of things again. It can't be the most untested (long term) vaccine in history, using a method that's never been approved by the FDA before (mRNA), no way! lol

Going by your posts on this thread, I guess you'll be taking the vaccine as soon as you can. If so, please report back after taking it. Keep us updated. Thanks.

statsers · Dec 14, 2020

Preon · Dec 14, 2020

Takoona said:
Yes, but due to the fact that this is the fastest produced vaccine in history, and vaccines usually take many years to perfect (and even then still have high adverse effects), I would definitely err on the side of caution. Also, if these adverse reactions were just coincidence, and the vaccine is completely safe, then why have all vaccine producers been made exempt from any liability.

Furthermore. Before the vaccine every death was being blamed on covid (and still are to keep the numbers up). It's actually a running joke. But now the vaccine is here, any adverse reactions that could be vaccine related are now being blamed on the "normal" run of things again. It can't be the most untested (long term) vaccine in history, using a method that's never been approved by the FDA before (mRNA), no way! lol

Going by your posts on this thread, I guess you'll be taking the vaccine as soon as you can. If so, please report back after taking it. Keep us updated. Thanks.

Hey, I'm all for having an opinion.
I know many people believe that the Covid numbers are being inflated, but you just need to look at deaths as a whole versus every other year to get a clear picture.

If anything, this shows a large amount of undereporting. There's a discrepancy between reported Covid deaths versus excess deaths over previous years data.

theHypervisor · Dec 14, 2020

statsers said:
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As someone who’s been interviewed by the BBC news (basically a cameraman with a set of instructions who turned up at my house) this one I will 100% agree with. I was practically being told what to say to the extent I felt ‘comfortable’ and then saw my interview “remixed” beyond recognition when it was broadcast. About an hours worth of work/rehearsal (yes you read that right) condensed into 30 seconds or so of total slander!

Takoona · Dec 14, 2020

I'm sorry, but anything from our world in data is void when you take a look at who they are funded by.

"Our World in Data is supported by grants from the Department of Health and Social Care in the United Kingdom, a grant from the German entrepreneur, businesswoman and philanthropist Susanne Klatten, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation".

There's a massive conflict of interest here. And due to the fact that you were not aware of this, and are using this material as factual data, no offense, but I am going to leave the conversation here.

But do keep the thread updated if you decide take the vaccine. Take care.

theHypervisor · Dec 14, 2020

jonnyah said:
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The only problem I have with this is that unless someone is an omnipotent force that can see and confirm all these deaths for themselves, it’s merely conjecture.

Preon · Dec 14, 2020

Takoona said:
I'm sorry, but anything from our world in data is void when you take a look at who they are funded by.

"Our World in Data is supported by grants from the Department of Health and Social Care in the United Kingdom, a grant from the German entrepreneur, businesswoman and philanthropist Susanne Klatten, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation".

There's a massive conflict of interest here. And due to the fact that you were not aware of this, and are using this material as factual data, no offense, but I am going to leave the conversation here.

But do keep the thread updated if you decide take the vaccine. Take care.

So, show me a source that shows deaths have been lied about?

There's plenty of data out there that shows excess deaths in 2020 over 10-year average.

I'm curious. What do you believe the objective is for lying about excess deaths?

Traj87 · Dec 14, 2020

bartosimpsonio said:
This is a historic moment

USA has authorized the vaccine and it's rolling out as we speak. They can already start vaccinating right now. In fact the higher echelon are probably getting vaccinated right this minute.

It's the beginning of the end for this fucking virus. We're gonna defeat this bastard fuck of a germ.

Godspeed, USA. Thanks Pfizer!

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m1k3r said:
The end of one pandemic straight into the zombie apocalypse

Definitely giving me 28 days later vibes

terrycody · Dec 14, 2020

Blackhat Lifter said:
You in two years from now

I hope I get that "2 arms" but on my lower part of body.

dante9 · Dec 14, 2020

just like we defeated flu. it only took 100 years of vaccinating. people still die of it and now its been replaced by corona
so its all just a flu

ShashiKumaar · Dec 14, 2020

So, China is able to wipe it out. 1.9million people across the globe vs just 3.5k of their own people. Without nuking a single bomb. Destroying trillions of economies. Now everyone is being forced to inject imperfect but claimed to work vaccines. One big question is always bugging me out? How could they be able to eliminate the infection where the rest of world failed? Second, why do they need vaccines? or just a chinese business scam.

Preon · Dec 14, 2020

ShashiKumaar said:
So, China is able to wipe it out. 1.9million people across the globe vs just 3.5k of their own people. Without nuking a single bomb. Destroying trillions of economies. Now everyone is being forced to inject imperfect but claimed to work vaccines. One big question is always bugging me out? How could they be able to eliminate the infection where the rest of world failed? Second, why do they need vaccines? or just a chinese business scam.

They did it the same that Australia and New Zealand did it, by locking down hard and carrying out effective contact tracing. But who really knows with China, it's a bit of information black hole.

ExperimentalSEO · Dec 14, 2020

China is able to shut down an entire city if just one person tests positive for coronavirus.

China coronavirus cases on Russia border spark lockdowns, tests

China has put one northern city in lockdown and launched citywide coronavirus testing in another, after two local infections involving workers at a port and trade zone respectively, authorities have said.

medicalxpress.com

"In mid-July, officials declared a "wartime mode" for the region. Community officials continue to go door to door, sealing doors with paper strips, tape and in some cases metal bars, to prevent residents from leaving their homes."

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VSYNC · Dec 14, 2020

ExperimentalSEO said:
So the pharma industry should be banned and we should die much earlier since there will be no more advances in medicine?

No, we just shouldn't suck their dicks as being good people and should call them what they really are and act accordingly.

By the way, the weakest argument possible is say "Ok, so X are evil and harmful for the world, what are we supposed to do, get rid of them completely and have no Y". It's going to the extreme in order to try to negate the point.

"So McDonalds popularised the mass consumption of unhealthy food and largely caused the obesity epidemic in the US, what are we supposed to do, ban eating food??" <<--- see how transparently weak of an argument that is?

Preon · Dec 14, 2020

VSYNC said:
No, we just shouldn't suck their dicks as being good people and should call them what they really are and act accordingly.

By the way, the weakest argument possible is say "Ok, so X are evil and harmful for the world, what are we supposed to do, get rid of them completely and have no Y". It's going to the extreme in order to try to negate the point.

"So McDonalds popularised the mass consumption of unhealthy food and largely caused the obesity epidemic in the US, what are we supposed to do, ban eating food??" <<--- see how transparently weak of an argument that is?

It's possible to be shitty but good at your job at the same time. While some Pharmaceutical companies have done many bad things over the years, they have also managed to produce medicines that have saved lives. Not all are terrible either.
There's hardly a company on the S&P500 that isn't shitty in some way.

dheer · Dec 14, 2020

I fail to understand one thing how come nations like India is having less cases compared to US and Italy.

They claim that Indians are vaccinated with BCG and its not the case with US and EU nations.

If this is the case why the cases went up in India initially and now things are getting normal. Is this some short of conspiracy or what?

I'm not really sure weather I will get vaccine or not but I'm hovering out in this world since late May 2020 till now and I'm fine.

oatmeal · Dec 14, 2020

is it possible to dropship the vaccine? XD
Would sure help my business.

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