The Ultimate Amazon Thread Mark 2 - Q/A - Good/Bad

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I think that most people miss out the fact that subdomains are treated separately (or independently) by Google's engine. While a subdomain may seem to be the easiest/cheapest solution to create a bunch of websites belonging to the same niche, it may not be the best one.

The best example that I can think of are Web2.0 properties, which are nothing else than a subdomain of wordpress/blogspot/etc. There are a lot of blogs which are spammed to death and which eventually get deleted, while at the same time you've got a lot of 'myblog.wordpress.com' which have authority and a high PR.

Back in the days when HubPages was strong, the network had a subdomain site structure (subdomain.hubpages.com) which did not help them at all when Google released Panda (if I'm not mistaken), deindexing a lot of hubs and lowering the site's authority. The network had to switch all their hubs to a subdirectory structure (domain.com/subdirectory) to somehow have a bit of control over their rankings. That's probably what happened to Danny's site(s) when he used such a site structure.

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I actually think its pretty simple - one of the subdomains triggers something - someone takes a look at it and sees it for what it is - essentially a honey pot of affiliate links hidden under a bunch of content.

Like I said overall - if you go too far from having Quality Sites - then your risks are higher and its not good long term business strategy.

I actually collected quite a few Sales - but for the time/effort it wasn't worth it too me - would have been better sticking with WP Sites.

Google is just more advanced at catching onto this type of thing these days - so its not for me.
 

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earlier i post my experience in my post http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-thread-mark-2-q-good-bad-10.html#post5343734


now i want to share my whole month earning/progress in this post.....
have a look on screenshot, i sold total 37 product, and its just second month with 1 site. As danny said again and again that we need more sites to earn good, and thats my goal now, i will increase quantity to 5-10 sites this month, make them proper with good seo and then build more. i am not interested in building 30-40 sites in just 1-2 month without doing proper seo and analysis, i spend my lot of time in learning amazon marketing, reading danny thread {refreshing around 10-15 times a day} and other amazon journey threads at BHW and other communities....
overall now i know that i can earn with amazon, and everyone can earn, just do proper content writing, good structure, proper social media marketing & SEO, analysis & Create your "secret sauce" :p



I mention my SEO blueprint in my last thread.. so far i haven't add anything new in my streategy so not going to write same thing here again. visit my last post at above link.

Thanks you Danny and others who post in this thread.....amazon.jpg
 

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you can't compare what I did to a Web 2.0 Network and how they set it up.

I set mine up for the Sole Purpose of Testing could I get away with 5-8 articles - for 10/15 sites aimed at multiple niches --- the answer was no (LOL)


I'm so glad you have found some Sales and are moving forward - you really can learn alot from the one Site and then move onto the others once you realize what it is that makes you successful ... I also appreciate the fact that you understand "Secret Sauce" --> some of the things and how you do it you have to keep yourself - so your sites are successful - you don't need 100 new competitors doing the exact same thing as you.

Much Success Guys - I'm out for rest of the day .. Cheers.
 

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Danny, back to the subdomain thing for just a moment... I think your site was deindexed because of the stores. Probably Google flagged your site as spam. You could be up and running without stores.
About a month ago google released a document called: Search Quality Rating Guidelines which is a must read for every one of us. Especially from section 3 where it talks about webspam, copied content, thin affiliates, EMD's and more.... - and there is no mention that subdomains are a no-no...

I've learned a lot from that doc so I'm going to share it here with you all.
 

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KristianI - I was wondering the same thing. I'm quite familiar with google evaluator guide and I know that human raters do not blacklist sites because of subdomains. I've seen quite a few sites that have extensive subdomain structure and still rank very well. At the same time, I know that some SEO experts do not recommend it. Maybe it's riskier? If one sub domain gets blacklisted it brings the whole network down?
 

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I stand by my original assertion that I wouldn't invest my money into building a structure based on SubDomains.

It took them 3 weeks to kill what I was doing - so for me that shows they catch onto that stuff really quickly.

If you want to go that route then obviously your going to have to tread carefully .. all the best.
 

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u explain in very details . i will try to build one similar one this weekend :D thanks alot
 

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Comment :

Alot of questions asking about different things -- > I just want everyone to remember - I can answer based on my experiences - but once you start asking me ... what about this and that - I can't really give you the answers you are wanting - because I just don't know.

You will have to try it yourself and see if you can make it work - while I have done alot of things with Amazon I certainly have not tried everything ... and that is what I want this thread to be based on .... Absolute Facts .. People I'm sure want to know how to make money -- so I'm trying to keep my answers focussed on what I know works and how to get there -- not some fantasy world that you read about elsewhere.

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Danny, i want to know that is using google analytic and google webmaster tool is safe for using...... ?
i am using it and big fan of this tools, but i heard that google will have eye on my site and in this condition there is more possibility of site deindexed....
 

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well I don't use Google for those things .. for me its too dangerous

if you have a different opinion then thats up to you.
 

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i didn't post before because you said you don't want BST sellers to post but now i closed all of my services
no headache anymore for me ...., want to say congrats and keep it growing and updated .
 

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Bit of insperation if your not seeing much sales, last month i had 1900 clicks and only 2 sales grand total of $ 5.20 left me feeling a bit deflated.

Anyway kept plodding away adding more reviews, 5 days into this month had 330 clicks 3 sales the last sale today was for a $2,699.99 item. That deflated feeling soon went away, onwards and upwards from now on hopefully, just need to get another at that price when im at 6.00%.
 

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well I don't use Google for those things .. for me its too dangerous

if you have a different opinion then thats up to you.

Why wouldn't you use analytics? It's a such a great tool for digging deep into your site and discovering long tails.
 

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That answer is simple .. To stop google from linking all my sites together .. The last thing I need is to lose 40 sites overnight.
 

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I have a few bots - and use some social sharing sites and thats it.

But I am not a Support Forum for Social Bot Use - check the BST area and speak directly with the makers - or their YouTube Videos.
Thanks Danny for you reply. Besides using some social sharing sites to gain followers. How do you build relationship with you followers? Or let's say what content you use to publish on social networks.
 

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to answer what your asking Im guessing :

I rely on Google Traffic for Sales - Google Traffic = Gold --> my conversion rate is 10-20% every month - Amazon Clicks vs Sales

Social Bots/Sharing and Other Methods I use a little - as I support BST Sellers - and I made some good money using Pinterest -- but these are things you have to investigate - I don't want to turn this thread into a Support Forum for BST Sellers ... best use their resources/time for that.
 

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Four days of research have finally paid off. I went through this thread a few times along with others and then it finally made click. I have unsuccessfully worked with Amazon through whole 2012 making peanuts, but now I understand why it wasn't working out and see how simple it actually is; from the initial research to keeping the sites running and ranked on long term, man I couldn't be happier right now ;).

Currently working on 3 sites, with great buying keywords, doable competition, modded premium themes and lots of great and unique content and 5 months of free time to tweak, adjust, split test and upscale my project. I came to this thread thinking I understood amazon, but in the process of my research I have realized how wrong my initial approach and my understanding actually was. So thanks Danny ! :). My main site that I have fully running already is showing me that the concept works (long tail buying KW visitors and a sale!) so it will just be a matter of time.


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You know - alot of time people spend staring at the screen wondering how can I make this work - I just don't get it ---> or by reading more and more threads -- but just not grasping the concept of how making money actually works.

Here with Amazon -- you got to organize your approach - figure out how you want to research -- but then take action and try ... if you try and succeed great --> then just scale

but if its not working or too slow or whatever the reason ---> start with tracking every visitor / every keyword position / check your content / check your links / try a new theme / better looking images / nicer logo / add a favicon /// check your plugins are configured correctly .... make sure the visitors can access the content they came to the site looking for ..... and lastly make sure they can click something so you can get paid.

it's important to do all those things right --- and give a great user experience -- but you also have to have people clicking your Links / Buttons and Images - so you can get Sales.

All the best today guys and much success.
 
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