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The Truth about Abs, Gaining Muscle, Losing Weight bla bla bla

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Bisturi, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. Bisturi

    Bisturi Junior Member

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    Allright,

    I am constantly asking questions about Black Hat and until 4 weeks ago I thought that SEO was a misspelled version of Chief Executive Officer. I want to give back to the community and since I can't help with SEO, I will help out with my area of expertise: fitness and weight training.

    Ok, so who am I? Natural lifter who has put over 3 wheels (315lbs) over his head (no, not bench pressed, actually put it over my head), can power clean more than 99.9% of what any gym people can do, have deadlifted 550lbs at a body weight of 180lbs (over 3x body weight), have competed in weightlifting, have had a six pack with veins everywhere and got a lot of pussy for that. Bla bla bla let's stop the dicksizing and get to the point.

    This, my friends, is the reality of weight training, gaining muscle, losing fat, getting in shape and all that. Simple and beautiful:

    1) You need to lift heavy weights to gain muscle AND to lose fat.

    2) On the above, do compound exercises: squats, deadlifts, power cleans, presses, rows. Even if you just want to look good to get pussy.

    3) Isolation exercises should be the icing on the cake, if at all. Concentrate on Point 2.

    4) Fuck supplements.

    5) Be extremely skeptic of very muscular people giving out advice: the fitness industry thrives on taking steroids then selling supplements or training advice. It actually parallels much of the business model that IM or SEO con-artists follow.

    6) Bodybuilding.com is the biggest joke of a place to get fitness advice, avoid at all costs. Full of steroid users who disguise their use saying that eating 8 times a day got them there (LOLZ). PM for good online forums (I am not affiliated to any).

    7) A good training routine? The Strongest Shall Survive. Starting Strength is overrated but works, Madcow is good too. Just freaking emphasize getting stronger over time, muscle and looking good will come.

    8) Nutrition is overrated. Just eat anything that used to walk or swim, get some healthy fish oils in, eat a lot of fruits and veggies.

    9) Eat at least twice a day. Please, don't be the sad soul carrying around his tupperware everywhere so he can eat every 2 hours.

    10) On Point 4, ok, you can take some multi-vitamin, cheap whey protein, vitamin C, zinc, calcium and magnesium (avoid the oxide forms). Take some creatine if you feel "hardcore" brah. Fuck the rest of supplements.

    11) You don't want to lose WEIGHT, you want to lose FAT.

    12) To lose fat, do plenty of dinner table push-aways. 99% of the times, you got fat cos you eat like a pig.

    13) The truth about abs? Shortcuts to abs? They are all a scam. You want the truth? Really? Freaking hard work: heavy compound and ab exercises, get strong, eat less. Do that for a long enough time. Bang, you got abs. You will need anywhere from 3 to 12 months to get abs if you follow this advice and you are not lean.

    14) Read again, there are no shortcuts. No shortcuts for abs, no shortcuts for muscle, no shortcuts to look good naked (unless you want to take shitloads of steroids, clenbuterol and liothyronine). Hard freaking consistent work over the long-term.

    15) If you join a gym, don't be the pencilneck bro with a wifebeater and a Westside cap doing bicep curls in front of the mirror. They make fun of this sort of people on online forums.

    That's it, feel free to ask if you need help.

    Take care.
     
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  2. miansc

    miansc Regular Member

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    Whoahhhh, sick read!

    Post a pic of yourself (no homo)

    I'm wanting to start, but only weigh like 65kg, which is fk all. Got any tips on putting on weight? What about supps to gain mass?

    I'm going for a ripped physique, not a arnie status haha.
     
  3. Bisturi

    Bisturi Junior Member

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    No pics of me, I'm afraid. I've done it all, ballooned up to 225lbs and cut down to an 8 pack, at 185lbs with a six pack I feel my best. I am not trying to sell you my advice, my site nor my "click on my link" so you will have to take my word for it (if you want to).

    A ripped physique is actually not that difficult to build. The difficult thing is getting big without getting fat and without touching steroids or prohormones (many years of dedicated training). Whoever tells you otherwise is lying to you in your face and has secondary intentions (this is very real in commercial fitness/bodybuilding forums).

    To put on weight, do my Point 2. Get a decent routine, work hard. Try to get to the following as fats as possible:

    - Benchpressing 1.5x body weight (about 110kgs for you)

    - Deadlifting 2x body weight

    -Squatting 1.75x body weight. Please, no quater squats, go AT LEAST down to parallel.

    That will build muscle, from there onwards, it is auto-pilot going day in and day out to the gym to continue building muscle. Think of it in yearly blocks, not months.

    Supplements for muscle mass? What I said above, go with creatine if you want to gain some weight fast (albeit it is not muscle but just intra-muscular water retention). The only supplements that work to gain a lot of muscle are steroids but hey, no one selling you "Nitric Oxide Pump-Aholic" wants to tell you their dirty little secret.
     
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  4. miansc

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    cheers for the advice, mate. I don't think i'll be training anytime soon this year, fuck all time. So in the mean time I'm just going to keep putting on weight and doing cardio.

    got skype?
     
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    They say you lose weight if you do a lot of cardio , true or false??
    How the hell do you motivate yourself???
     
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    Well of course, because you're burning fat. But, let's wait to see what OP says :)
     
  7. Bisturi

    Bisturi Junior Member

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    Go easy with putting on weight without touching weights. Fat gain is unhealthy, especially if you are over 30. Make sure your waist doesn't go over 36 inches in circumference.

    No Skype sorry. I rather post my advice here so everyone can benefit from it. I am willing to have a SEO buddy who can help me with SEO and I help him with whatever fitness. Just a friendly relationship, no strings attached, no money involved and altruist in nature, and via email.


    Cardio is overrated. You lose weight by using more calories than you ingest. You can use more calories by doing cardio, doing weights or even having sex. The best way to lose FAT is via doing heavy compound exercises, some cardio and having a solid diet creating a caloric deficit. If you do this, you are guaranteed getting abs without losing musch (if any) muscle mass.

    I motivate myself because I love lifting weights. If you don't enjoy what you do, you will not be motivated to do it. Find out why you want to do this, it is not for everyone. Draw parallelisms with SEO, do you love SEO? What motivates you to spend hours in front of the screen doing SEO? Maybe banging hot chicks motivates you to improve your body, so everytime you hit the gym, think that you are a step closer to baging 9s instead of 4s.
     
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    Man I love this guy! haha, speaks like me and my mates do.

    pm me mate, we ca help each other :)
     
  9. Leith

    Leith Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I weigh about 60-70 kg.

    Currently about a 4 pack, did have a 6 before from just doing 50 push ups / sit ups 3 times per day. No gym, lol.

    Got a daily work at home excercise routine for me?
     
  10. Bisturi

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    We all have six packs, they are just covered by a layer of fat. If your body fat is low enough, you will have a six pack because the muscles are there already. You can get an even sicker six pack by hitting the abdominal wall with heavy smart exercises (no endless crunches please) but anyone lean enough will have a six pack.

    I could look into a home exercise routine for you but I am writing an article for my site right now so can't be devoting too much time. What do you have access to at home?
     
  11. stressfree

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    Why on earth anyone want sto "body build" is beyond me. It looks awful. Heave weights/protein/steroids.why? To look like a gorilla?

    But fitness training and lean looks good!

    The best physiques a guy should aim for is something like Brad Pitts/ Tom Cruise/ William Defoe etc....Lean and fit..not bulk muscle.

    Good diet, some light weights and lots of cardio I.M.H.O.
     
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    80/20 i was told. 80% diet 20% exercise but it will tone you and get your natural fitness up.

     
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    The cardio before breakfast can really help you for losing some fat. I eat egg whites before the cardio, because the body is hungry in the morning and i have to safe my muscle mass during the cardio process. I know bodybuilders which lose all the weight just with heavy compund exercises, but the training sessions are really hard and i dont think a newbie can handle them. The heavy exercises are must have for any losing weight plan, because the muscle mass burn more calories during the entire day.

    By the way i agree with all points in OP. Point 2 is the most important factor in any training routine. Squats and deadlifts are essential for muscle mass building and losing weight.
     
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    anyone can get 'lean' like those hollywood wannabees.

    try body building, it's pushing your self beyond limits, and training hard. why? sense of accomplishment? i dunno.

    protein? lol, everyone needs it regardless of whether you're trying to look like a gorilla or not.

    and you clearly didn't read op, he states that he hates anything to do with drugs to enhance you're body building
     
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    No offense bro, but you have no idea about what are you talking about. First off all EVERY man have to be strong. Phisique like Tom Cruise? He look like a funny gnome. Brad Pitt look good, but he is training HARD. There is not any connection between his body and the cardio. All good bodies (even female) are created via heavy weight training. The light weights do nothing...And the cardio is situational solution.

    The regular male body shoud look like Alistair:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1dIEadU6Fg&feature=related
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    I think stressfree might have been referring to body builders like these guys

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3GB0zkU5Kw
     
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    Do not get blinded by professional bodybuilders who live and breathe bodybuilding (including heavy steroid use). Natural bodybuilding is a great activity that emphasizes health too. Unfortunately these days, natural bodybuilding has become corrupted but take a look at lifters from the 40s and 50s who didnt take steroids because they were not available. They emphasized health and lifting heavy to have a vigorous physique.

    Also, light training will get you nowhere other than newbie gains. Once you are over the newbie gains (3 months), you need to continually lift heavy to gain muscle. Trust me in that any average joe would look more attractive to any women with an extra 10-15 of muscle and a body fat below 12%.

    This is Arthur Saxon. Oldschool bodybuilder who didn't touch steroids, lifted heavy and emphasized health. Give him a hipster bro haircut, place him on the dancefloor of a nightclub without a shirt and watch how the women throw their panties at him.

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    Bla bla bla. Another myth perpetuated by those trying to sell you supplements. Worry about lifting heavy weights and getting stronger while eating a basic diet made up of meat, veggies, fruits, buts and some whole grain stuff. No need to make it complicated and throw in silly ratios or %s.
     
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    Some sound advice.

    Although on point 15 I believe mirrors are great to look at your technique in. At first I thought they were for arrogant pri*ks to look at themselves in and yes a lot do. My point is it helps me keep my balance and technique when doing certain exercises.

    Have you never been tempted with steroids/prohormones? A lots of people I know hit a brick wall after years of training and have no other option to get gains naturally. I heard of something new out there called SARMS, it looks great but no one knows the long term sides...
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    Actually steroids were invented in the 1930's by Soviet Scientists,so who knows who was using back in the 40's. And by the 1950's even the U.S. weightlifting Olympic team was juicing.
     
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    Seems as though you have made the post out of spite of Mike Changs six pack shortcuts, he is a great marketer but as the OP has said there are no shortcuts. I am lucky enough to have an 8 pack but it's taken 3 years of absolute dedication to get it. Good post OP nice to see the lounge populated with some fitness advice.