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The Theme Park Method, $20,548 Profit Per Day

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by FreeTheTV, May 29, 2009.

  1. FreeTheTV

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    For those of you who are unaware, I have two things to share before I begin to explain this method. The first is that I am an employee at Universal Orlando. I have a very interesting job that I am very thankful for receiving. I walk around Universal Studios and Islands of Adventure, and basically eavesdrop on people's conversations.

    The point of my job is to collect data and find out what the public thinks of the parks, what they want to be changed, and what needs to be fixed to become more user friendly.

    The second is that on the day of the Super Bowl this year, there was a commercial for a promotion entitled Universal Heroes. There were four commercials in total that day/night, and the point of it was simple. The first 100,000 people to sign up through the website http://www.universalheroes.com (now defunct, so don't bother with the link), received a free 7-day 2-park unlimited pass. No catches and no strings attached.

    Also, every day for the 28 days after that, they would give away one full theme park package, with hotel, VIP passes, and the like. I signed up, my girlfriend signed up right after. She received one, a savings for us of $139, and I didn't, but we used the same IP, so her sign-up most likely canceled out mine.

    The sign-up page was rather simple. The first page of it was nothing but an enter your e-mail box. Once you did this, you were taken to a second page, where you filled in the typical information, such as address, birthday, full name, etcetera. After you completed this page, you were done.

    Simple as that. I thought it may have been a scam, but two weeks later her pass came in the mail, official, from Universal Orlando. A rather exciting day, to say the least.

    I talked to one of the executives at the park last week, wondering just how many people actually signed up for the Universal Heroes giveaway. He said that on the first day, 213,600 signed up. As for the full month, the numbers were very close to one million, although he wasn't legally allowed to disclose how much (the hallowed ground of targeted email lists). This got me seriously thinking about a method to make massive amounts of money.

    Say you buy a domain such as freeticketgiveaway.com or something along those lines. Then, iframe a simple email submit CPA offer for a discount to the theme park of your choosing from anything you can possibly locate. However, instead of making the landing page look like a discount, make it look like they will get a free ticket. This is where blackhat comes into play.

    Now, once they complete the email submit, they will be taken to a second page, where they fill out various contact information for the same thing. Well guess what. Once they press to complete the offer, that's a complete second page submit CPA offer. Those types of things easily net you five to ten dollars each time.

    Now say you were to ramp it up, and on the first page, there was also a "confirm e-mail address" iframed box. This one box could be a simple email submit. In which case, you would get the money for the email submit and also the second page submit.

    You could even go a step further and add a zip code submit to the first page as well, making three different income streams for those two pages. Cookie stuff the pages with affiliate offers from various theme parks and you are golden.

    The difficult part comes in the promotion. Obviously, few of us on Blackhatworld have the money to purchase ad space for the Super Bowl, with thirty second ad spaces running three million dollars this year.

    But if you were to spend quite some time submitting your site to social bookmarking web pages, spamming amusement park forums, spamming social networks, Craigslist, Gumtree, anything you could possibly think of, you would be good to go. You could even outsource the promotional work once the money started accumulating. Go viral or don't go at all.

    One thing to think of is the moneymaking potential. Imagine if you were able to reach one million people in one full year. Universal reached that in a month, but their promotional skills are the things of legends, a full team and everything. But one million people in one year. And say 75% of them actually filled out the offer completely.

    That's the around one dollar zip submit, the one dollar email submit, and the eight dollar second page submit for 750,000 people. Ten dollars multiplied by 750,000 people is seven and a half million dollars, or $7,500,000.00. Conversions? Probably pretty good, since they'll most likely get an email response with discounts.

    Remember, they signed up wanting free stuff, discounts are the next best thing.

    The possible streams from this are large as well. Put an AdSense ad box on the side of both pages and watch the profits grow. Cookie stuff EPN with theme park tickets. Start your own forum from the site, join as like twenty members, and spam your offers to unique members constantly, also saying "I got my ticket today!".

    Imagination put into work is the key in this one. Make it seem legitimate, and make it work for you, and you can make the serious bank. Good luck to you! Sincerely,
    FreeTheTV

    Sidenote: Yeah, I know that was a lot to read, but wasn't it worth it?
     
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  2. kasher9

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    This is actually a great idea, this can be used as a base, and to promote it, you can do twitter,youtube,spam forums, craigslist, gumtree, as you mentioned or hand out pamflets with your website in the town center. The only problem I would have is whether it would convert. universal studios' is a huge firm, and the only reason they were able to get a million is viral advertisement. If we were to all do this, the viral method wouldn't be as good, but I see where you're getting at. Even if you have 100,000 converts at average $2, thats $200k from one method, and if you run 10 or 15 websites, with the same idea, you could have $2M.
     
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  3. FreeTheTV

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    This is all true, kasher9. But this method factors in the idea that it only receives 7 to 8 percent of the hype that Universal generated with their viral marketing campaign. You see, they were able to reach and sign up close to one million people in just one month.

    After one full year, 12 times the span of the Universal Heroes campaign, and with popularity of the site doing nothing but growing, the base that could be reached could possibly cross the one million person mark. I mean, maybe I'm thinking too large-scale here, but this is how it seems in my eyes.

    As far as Youtube is concerned, definitely worth it, as well as Twitter. Even adding a Follow Me button to the first page and a YouTube Bar much like those in Blogger Blogs would ramp it up even more.

    Also making seemingly-aged blogs packed with information about Universal or whatever park you choose, then a post about the campaign, would be a great way to reach a fambase of readers and enthusiasts. Advertise Fodor's guidebooks and there's another stream.
     
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  4. Vendetta

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    this idea has great potential.

    my question comes in the cpa networks and such. where would i look to find something like this for theme parks? i don't see anything on maxbounty right now, but they're sucking it up right now anyways.

    any suggestions?
     
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  5. kasher9

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    Have you tried Copeac or Neverblue?
     
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    There's one on Neverblue I just found. Not gonna point anyone to it, but just to let you know, it is there.

    EDIT: Make that three.
     
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  7. springer98

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    It doesn't HAVE to be a theme park... that's all I'm saying. Some of you will know what I mean. :cool:

    BTW, great idea, Free. I like the way you think. If you ever decide to sell the part of your brain that thinks of these methods, call me!
     
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  8. Oblet

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    I already called that part of his brain!
     
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  9. whitecat

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    I love this idea for 3 reasons...

    1. Using something like GodCPA or something similar would be a perfect fit.

    2. I like your idea and logic behind the conversion rate as long as you pick offers that offer discounts, chances are a percentage of people will convert for the advertiser because they are looking for savings.

    3. I love theme parks and am hoping by kissing your ass in this thread you'll arrange to get me free tickets to Universal. :)
     
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  10. bobbylove321

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    Doing it out in the real world ALWAYS plays out differently than doing it out on paper mathematically.

    I'm pretty sure all of us at some point has sat down and said well if I could get 100 people to this clickbank offer and 1% buys, then I can get $33 a sale, so now if I get 100,000 people to the offer and 1% buys, then I can get $33,000!!!

    But then you run into the problem of traffic, competition, saturation, and you find out it doesn't convert at 1%, nope, not even at .5%.

    So doing it in real life and then making money is totally different.
     
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  11. FreeTheTV

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    Haha a few years back, if you would "Ask for Bertha", you'd get your tickets for half price. She left, (secret: she died) as did the discount. I have no experience with GodCPA, although I'm sure that since it's a ******** program it works great. But looking at the BST thread, it seems like a pretty good fit for this type of work.

    I just bougt my first domain name, http://freethemeparktickets.info, for this idea. Now I'm working on integrating hosting into it. Should be quite the ride, as I usually just stick with free Blogger URL's and templates. But, since this is my breakaway form the adult industry, might as well try something else different as well, right?

    EDIT: In response to Therookie's post below, as not to post too many times. If you know how to promote, you can get the traffic. if you have the willing and the money to outsource, you can get the traffic faster.
     
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  12. Therookie

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    I can see the CPA networks shaving and giving you 100 dollars of that and putting the rest in their golden pockets.

    Other thing is most marketing individuals can rarely get that many people looking at the offer and who can afford to pay for TV commercials on here?

    Only the few know how to get that amount of eyeballs.
     
  13. Moneymaka

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    This is large scale definatly. Working with 1 or more people would be better.
     
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  14. Alex Brooks

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    Brilliant idea, very interesting story, if you don't mind me asking, what is your job title? It sound's like a very interesting job!
     
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  15. wannabe

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    Good idea ... but generating that amount of money wouldn't be suspicious?
     
  16. stealthisblog

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    Nice idea, but unfortunately I highly doubt you're going to get your money. Since its all iframed the advertisers won't get a single conversion since they can't go on to complete the advertiser's offers and don't even know what they're really filling out. If your CPA networks see you with 750,000 leads and not one conversion on their backend, you're screwed. Most people would go with junk traffic to cover this up - that's nearly impossible here, you would need millions of legit clicks and submits... Just my thoughts, but I'm sure many others noticed this too. Great concept though, and I wish you the best of luck :D
     
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  17. therat

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    set up an opt in, get their email and then re-direct to cpa offer instead of this framing stuff - I'm doing something similar with my pm bots
     
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    Why dont you just promote one of those ticket exchange sites? I used one on CJ last year, that should convert for you
     
  19. 4alllifestyles

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    Take this one step farther......

    Do a deal with a real Theme Partk, Tourist attraction, or a group of them.

    Let the venues add this to their WH sites and pay you for gathering all the data from all the venues in a geographic area to each of them for their own marketing purposes.

    What would happen if 8 or 9 venues in Pigeon Forge could be sold on this?

    With you bringing in the backdoor bucks the entire time?
     
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  20. wowhaxor

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    Stealth is 100% right. When you're iframing and nothing converts you wont get paid. Thats why you have to drive some legit traffic to the offer as well, with these kinds of numbers that would be crazy to do.