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The story of how I got scammed and how Paypal saved me

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by itank27, Oct 26, 2014.

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  1. itank27

    itank27 Junior Member

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    So last Tuesday I was looking at the live chat in my CPA network when I saw someone advertising GSA SER + GSA Captcha Breaker being sold by him for 70$. Yes, I know buying it would be illegal, and completely unfair on the (hard-working) developers of GSA, but the way I look at these things is that, once I've made the money I'll buy the legitimate copies anyway.

    So stupidly I PM'ed that person. He gave me his Skype (his Skype is william.myrie1) and we were discussing the price, and why he was selling it so cheap. He told me that he was quitting IM to focus more on his electrician career and studying. He seemed like a nice guy, and I must admit that, having only realized this after the incident, I had a very naive and trusting nature online, which thankfully changed now. I tried to negotiate lowering the price, and after a couple of minutes of talking he said he didn't want to sell it anymore, that he now "needs it". I offered to pay him 80$ for it, as I really did not want to pass on such a good offer, but he still declined, again saying that he needed it. So I just left him.

    A couple of hours later he messages me saying he'll sell it for 75$. Realize that we were talking for several hours throughout this whole thing, as I wanted to make sure he's a legitimate person. I agreed, and I asked him to send me his ID. He refuses saying "who the hell does that wtf" so I just left that point, but I made him say several statements where he states his paypal email (his paypal email is mysteamcracker@gmail.com), and what he'll give me after the money is transferred. I thought that was enough, and was satisfied. He insisted on me sending him the money as a "friend/family"; I'm quite the beginner in IM so I didn't know well enough to reject this. He insisted on that in order to reduce the fees, especially as we live in Europe (He's from Sweden) and he wanted the payment in dollars -.-. It was a stupid mistake from my part, but like all mistakes at least I will never repeat it again.

    I sent him the money. You can probably guess what happened after, I ask him to send me the license, no reply, I ask him again, no reply. I had his account added on League of Legends, and I saw that he immediately started a game. I can't believe how fucked up and cold people can be. He didn't even give a shit. His League of Legends username is KevBror by the way. Naturally, I called him on Skype. Got blocked. Sent him messages on the game. Got blocked. Sent him emails. All ignored, I just could not reach out to him. I had a freaking panic attack. I'm not that successful in IM and 75$ is a LOT of hard work and money from me. I literally freaked out and just ran around my room not knowing what to do lol ... I was wrecked.

    After I recollected myself a bit, I started the (long) process on trying to get my money back. First thing I did was contact the owner of the CPA network I'm in (I won't mention its name just so I don't ruin its reputation). I told the owner the chat handle, Skype, name, e-mail address, possible names/usernames of the person that scammed me. "No one with that name exists in our systems". I asked him a couple of other questions which got ignored by the owner. One would think that an affiliate scammer running around scamming your other affiliates would warrant at least a bit of attention. Clearly not.

    The next thing to do was, of course, to contact PayPal. Here's where I really felt at my lowest. Since I sent it to a family/friend, I did not have buyers protection. I couldn't even open a dispute, let alone win one!!! I had no idea what to do, so I opened up a fraudulent transaction claim - big mistake! It got rejected by an expert there several hours later, and they kept holding it against me for the rest of the process. I sent their customer support an email, no reply.

    I called their customer support out of desperation, and was told by an extremely rude English customer care guy (if you live in the UK, English "professionals" are the fucking definition of rude.. they're just extremely annoying). He told me flat out "yeah yeah we can't do anything, next time do the transaction as a buyer". I insisted that I didn't know what the difference was, he says there's nothing he can do.

    I kept calling customer care in different branches, and it turns out that since my account was registered in Greece, I should call their European branch. After an hour of being put on hold, I finally got through to this Russian sounding guy that was literally awesome! He should give people lessons on customer care. He scolded me for sending the transaction as family/friend, but told me that, if I wanted to, I can send him an email with proof (Skype logs) and an opportunity for me to explain the entire situation in the email. He would then forward the email to the dispute settling team.

    I spent a several hours writing the most amazing pdf document with Skype screenshots of our conversation. I thought about copy pasting the content here, but figured this is too long and if anyone needs help/is interesting in reading what I said, could just send me a PM and I'd be glad to help. Anyway, I'm wasting too much of my time here, so to cut a long story short I sent the document and, today morning (several days later) I woke up and found that 75$ had been returned to my Paypal account "$75.00 USD;PayPal Posting Date:Oct 26, 2014;Payment from:paypal;Once Off Goodwill Gesture" :)

    I'm not sure if that's Paypal sending me their own personal money, or if they took the money from the thief scammer, but I'm hoping its the latter as it makes me feel horrible knowing that he got away with stealing 75$.

    Which brings me to my next point, I'm not sure if this is allowed on BHW, but I'm sure we all hate scammers, so if you don't mind I'll just list all the information I know about this kid - hopefully this could possibly prevent someone else from being scammed like me. Also, maybe an admin could find out his username on BHW from this info (?) as I know he's on this forum.

    His Skype ID: William.myrie1 and kevbror (the first one is his fake I think).

    https://twitter.com/KevinBror This is his twitter (looks like a rat to me..suits him)

    https://www.facebook.com/Lagos77 his facebook

    mysteamcracker@gmail.com is his paypal email - NEVER SEND MONEY TO THIS EMAIL - OR DEAL WITH IT IN ANY WAY. Additionally, it is the email that he's licensed with GSA SER and Captcha Breaker - I will be contacting the developers and ask them to put a block on his license, especially as he is going around illegally selling it (or pretending to).

    As for me, I'm going to save up to buy a legit copy of both softwares :)

    I hope people that read this learned something from my experience, if you ever face something similar I'd be glad to help.

    ...and as a last piece of advice I'll say to never, never, EVER trust someone online, no matter how legit they seem! always make sure you have a backup to fall back to in case you get scammed! - IM is economy and is not to be taken lightly!

    ~itank28
     
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    zburatorul Registered Member

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    There is something else you probably don't know... Even if he did send you the licenses, he could still use them and you would both get the software stuck from simultaneous runs. Anyway, if you decide to buy GSA SER and Captcha Breaker, consider that you will also need money for proxies (about $30 for 30 semi dedicated), a VPS (a decent one to start with is around $30), an indexing service (again, decent one is about $20 for 50k links a day, others cost considerably more), a good verified list to get you going (a good one to start with is between $30-$50), a content producing software and a spinner (I wont tell you how much these cost since you will probably give up if I do), and of course A LOT of time to kill reading forums and methods to optimize your LPM and strategies to not get penalized too quickly by the big g.

    I wish you good luck if you decide to continue, it can prove to be a quite satisfying journey when you reach the top and see some returns!
     
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  3. itank27

    itank27 Junior Member

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    Thanks for the reply, yes he told me he would never log in as I genuinely believed he was quitting IM!

    I'm probably not going to get GSA in the short-term future, because as you said it is extremely difficult to master. I'm already starting to see an improvement in my earnings (CPA) though so that's good :)
     
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    I am very sorry to hear that. I used to get scammed for 100 bucks as well. By the way, he can add multiple emails to his Paypal account and let other people send to a different email. So, it wouldn't be a problem for him.
     
  5. itank27

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    Well his Paypal name is "Kevin Reklen", but then again he can probably change that too :/ I think Paypal should definitely step up their security
     
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    deedee1whoa Power Member

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    Whoa! What a story, man. Sorry that you had to go through all that,
    but, now you've got a lesson out of it. At least that. Thanks for sharing. :)
     
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    If I were you, I would have Facebook messaged his girlfriend and played around lol... she's actually not too bad!
     
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    To OP, you are not allowed to reveal his personal informations on the forum.

    Edit your message and delete the personal informations.
     
  9. itank27

    itank27 Junior Member

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    I don't think that applies to scammers, but if it's really against the rules of the forums I'd rather wait for an admin to tell me to remove it.
     
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    Lol, yeah but poor girl its not her fault her boyfriend's is a stuck-up c*nt :)
     
  11. itank27

    itank27 Junior Member

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    Thanks, at least it had a happy ending! Many people have lost loads more and never got it back :(