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The Selling of Attention Deficit Disorder

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  1. fuzzy_corleone

    fuzzy_corleone Regular Member

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    I am diagnosed with a very high level of ADD and prescribed Ritalin for it. The medication is paid for mainly by insurance. So im not coming to much out of pocket for it, but the medicine companies are def still getting their money for it either way. I love my medicine. Lol it makes me feel like a zombie though coming off of it. Makes you feel horrible. But while its active in the body, you want to do rocket science. You feel so motivated. Think of it as taking alllll the motivation you have for one day, and packing it into about 3 hours. Thats what this medicine does, but for me after the three hours, pretty much no motivation is felt until I take another. So def a cycle of needing to keep taking them. Honestly, I think it was waaaayyy to easy for me to get the meds. Just had to do a survey with lots of questions, and questioned by a doctor. Even though I told the truth, all it would take was a few lies and you would be prescribed it. Questions that are obvious such as "is it hard for you to focus?"
     
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    Thinking into a PPD/CPA perspective, i think you boys just found your self a good niche.

    Do a CPA on how the ADD med industry is a big lie "Exposed A.D.D. Report"

    BAM! Easy cash and you would be helping ppl out;)
     
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    I may get flamed for the following but it is personal opinion...

    Being a person who has an incredibly hard time focusing, I have to disagree that prescription drugs are the cure for any "Diagnosed" ADD or ADHD. I'm a FIRM believer that the pharmaceutical industry is based off a simple chain of people trying to make money. Pharmaceutical Manufacturers sell Drugs to doctors and then doctors recommend them to patients. It's a money game, and the main drive behind the rise in patients (Children and Adult) being diagnosed with ADD and ADHD is because doctors and pharmaceutical companies are trying to make more money.

    My personal opinion is that ADD and ADHD is in the mind and building good core habits will in turn correct these so called "Disorders."
     
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    It's all fun and games until you really have ADHD or a kid with ADHD.... People can say all they want about the drug industry, but at least they get shit done. Brain scans show dysregulating neurotransmitters in people with ADHD. Good luck fixing that with acupuncture.
     
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    I'm autistic, I'd gotten help as a young child and thankfully haven't acted Autistic since except a few OCD ticks every so often.
    There's many levels but it came to a point EVERYBODY supposedly has it, like it's some sort of trend.
     
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    I believe that adhd exists as an extreme medical condition that is very rare. I think the rest is just a huge scam.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention-deficit_hyperactivity_disorder_controversies
    What does that tell you about parents and teachers? I don't agree with Culearone 's choice of words, but I do think that many people do simply dump their kids into whatever school and whomever teacher.

     
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    It irks me to see it used as another excuse for stupid/lazy parents and stupid/bratty children. Anyone that actually has it is seen as a liar or attention hog.
     
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    ive been diagnosed with ADD and taken meds. quit the meds because i realized its all bullshit. from my experience, people who have trouble focusing are very intuitive and good at connecting different ideas - the cost of this is trouble focusing on mundane details and following through on routine tasks. the pharmaceutical companies are "blackhatting" the general population and making HUGE profits one could only dream of. i dream of the day these pharmaceutical companies get wiped the fuck off the face of this planet for "legally" drugging people and duping the general population
     
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    I suffer from ADD, but I don't take drugs for it. I try alternative ways to help myself. My youngest son has it, but I didn't allow him to be on drugs. I let him make that decision for himself when he turned 18. He did decide to take aderall (sp?) for it, and finds it very helpful.
     
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    Let me tell you, you get A LOT of flack when your kid has ADD and you don't let him be on meds. Some parents weaken and give in because they don't want to see their child treated badly by the teachers. I didn't weaken, but I could see how some parents do. My son is very sweet. He was not a hyper or mean spirited child. He had manners and was a very pleasant child. But his ADD was bad and it frustrated his teachers. The teachers put a lot of pressure on parents to give in and make their kids take the meds. The teacher, principal, and guidance counselor all gang up on a parent at a PPT meeting and try to convince the parent to just put the kid on meds. I stood firm and said no at every meeting, but then the teacher kind of gives up on the kid.
     
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    My mother fought for me as well, when we'd overcome the negatives we've only seen it as an enhancement. I never wanted to hug, speak or be in large crowds; now I find it hard to shut up. lol
    My family never treated me differently and I believe that's the most important tool. When you're treated disabled, you behave disabled.
     
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    redrubies, that is really awesome of you to care so much. And funkybunker, you are so lucky to have a mother like yours. Unfortunately there are waaayyyy more parents who don't give a shit or are just plain stupid and the kids are the ones who suffer, either by not getting help or by being put through the grueling process of "treatment" by poor physicians and psychiatrists who hand out medications like candy for the simple reason that they get commissions from the drug companies, believe it or not!
     
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    cheap mans cocaine in my parts. I pay 1$ per mg here. I buy it as a treat sometimes when I want to write. Great nose candy


     
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    I totally agree.
     
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    Ritalin isn't candy for me. They put me on it as a child and my parents took me off it within days, I'd lay in bed asking when I'm going to die.
     
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    You ever considered home schooling your kid? When I have kids I wouldn't want them institutionalized to subpar education.
     
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    I've always thought that no matter how bad the school's education is, it is necessary to 'make' a child.

    When in a conventional classroom your child is forced to make choices that would not be an option at home. The decision of bunking a lesson, smoking behind the PE block, vandalism or anything that should trigger a child's moral compass doesn't have the chance to be triggered in your Lounge with logs on the fire and a hot cup of Cocoa.

    I agree that children should be given a friendly push in the right direction but ultimately they should be able to teach themselves from consequences they would experience much more readily in a school environment.

    Also, children that are home schooled generally, unintentionally or not, become wrapped up in cotton wool by their parents and this means that then when they do go back into mainstream education for University or similar, they find it harder to mix with other students.
     
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    I understand what you mean, it 's like putting the soldiers into battle to make those who survive experienced. Consider though that some will die and others will get scars. So the whole point is choosing the right battles - not throwing him in and praying he survives unscathed.
     
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    Exactly, just less death. I have seen first hand that children of all abilities thrive in groups. Whether it is competition or camaraderie, they help each to grow and excel. To take them out of a group is like separating twins, we are not meant to be solitary so I feel that to school a child alone or without children their own age isn't beneficial in the long run.