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The real real reason why 99% of you will never make money online

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Conor, Nov 23, 2015.

  1. Conor

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    Because you SUCK at selling.

    Sorry to be blunt, but if you've ever posted a "try fiverr" post in the hire a freelancer section, then I'm thinking of you as I type this.

    There are people literally waiting to pay you for your services, and you're sending them somewhere else, or giving them advice on how to get the job done themselves.

    Imagine if I went to the mechanic, and he gave me a lesson on how to change my car's brakes myself, without actually doing the job I need him to do. Sure, it's great that you're willing to help people, but there is a time and a place for that.

    Know when to sell your services, and when to turn away clients.
     
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  2. Ste Fishkin

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    The freelancer section is full of people looking for something for fuck all.

    People will not make money either doing 10 hours work for $15 like people seem to think they will.
     
  3. Sherbert Hoover

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    The hire a freelancer section on this site, and most sites in general, are absolute cesspools of crap. People want exorbitant things, and are paying pennies for them. You're far better off developing your own leads.

    When you say "Know when to sell your services, and when to turn away clients.", the HaF section is when to turn away clients, and doing your own market research and contacting prospective clients yourself, that's when you sell your services. The internet has changed.
     
  4. Conor

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    That's definitely true, however that doesn't mean that every single post in there is a waste of time. I was also just using the freelancer section as an example.

    My point was that being blind to an obvious money making opportunity is the main reason so many people suck at IM.
     
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    Here is a story.

    I remember when we were mostly doing article writing. Good thing about freelance sites is that you can see hiring history of potential clients. This way you can know if he wants low priced writers or something else.

    The potential client wanted 3 articles. I checked his history and saw he is paying premium for quality.

    I saw an opportunity and placed highest proposal. Somewhere around $750 for 3 articles (he was calling them reports, but these were just well researched 1000 word articles). He hired us. I gave it to my best writer (at that time) and she did this for $60 in one day.
     
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  6. rabbitking

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    Depends on where you are in this industry OP. I remember replying to hire a freelancer threads
    eager to write articles for people. I ran into so much buyer fraud and cheapo's I quit. A lot of vultures
    avoid the marketplace and abuse desperate freelancers.
     
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  7. Conor

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    I agree that certain places are not for everyone, and I've seen a ton of cheap douchebags in the freelancer section myself.

    The thing that would bother me is when I'd come across a perfectly reasonable looking thread where the OP is looking for a logo, for example. There isn't always a budget mentioned, but that can be a good opportunity to put together a quotation and sell one's services.

    The first post in the thread would be "Try fiverr, lots of cheap logos there". This is basically taking potential business away from the idiot who posted that response, as well as possibly every single bidder after him, because the OP has already started looking somewhere else.

    Sure, avoid cheap buyers and scammers at all costs, but it never hurts to keep an eye out for a good opportunity. It takes 2 minutes to send a PM, and figure out what sort of person you're dealing with.

    It would be like a newbie trying one of the methods posted here, and giving up after a week because "it doesn't work". I hate to quote stuff you'd hear on a kids TV show, but "if at first you don't succeed, drop the bitch and move on to the next one".
     
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    It would be cool for forum members to get exposure in the hire a freelancer section before some big company
    like Fiverr was posted for the 100th time I agree. It supports the members that make this community great and you
    aren't doing the OP any favor by referencing a source that's as well known as Wall Mart.
     
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    The real reason is that I'm wasting my time with educational videos like this one

     
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