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The proof that (new) PBNs are dead [Screenshot attached]

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Akieasendo, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Nargil

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    What Lucky told you. Archive, Whois Domaintools, hosting history, anchors, including historic ones and also index.
     
  2. Akieasendo

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    Of course I take a look at anchors and they are clean. I usually avoid every domains with "buy", "viagra" anchors and others anchors like that.

    As you can see ratio it's not bad and every anchor is related the the previous topic.
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    44% Naked
    10% Branded
    7% Naked
    7% Partial
    5% Partial Branded

    And others are almost all LSI.
     
  3. Nargil

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    Anchor distribution is not that important, but yes, there are keywords to avoid. Now check the rest, compare it with hosting history.
     
  4. Akieasendo

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    I always check archive. Archive say this website always had the same theme for all his life, just changing the news contents. News contents are all related to the topic as far as I can see.
    From 2010 to 2015 the website become multilanguage so they moved the homepage with a 301 from homepage.com to homepage.com/language-tag
    From 2015 to 2016 (last available capture) this institution did a rebrand, they changed name and domain name and moved this website using a 301. The theme of the new domain name is the same as the old one

    I always take a look at Whois Domaintools and as I said I'm the second owner of this domain and screenshot to not show anything suspicious... I do not have the pro version so I can't check hosting history there, if you please tell me how to check hosting history I would be glad to take a look into it.

    Anchors as I said above are clean. Historic anchors are clean as well and the ratio doesn't change much from the fresh one. TF and CF ratio change though: 11 TF 29 CF


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    All of my posts are correctly indexed, both fillers and the article with my link
     
  5. Nargil

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    Then you did a good job on checking the domain history. People rarely do. :) You will have to look for a problem elsewhere. Or maybe there isn't any, you are just too impatient and all you need to do is wait.
     
  6. redarrow

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    what your spam score ? on moz

    and how many pbn are you pointing to the money page?
     
  7. redarrow

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    I still want a ansaw you need more then 1 pbn to even say you got a pbn going minimum 5 then 10 then 20 .

    once again how many pbn are you using , if you think 1 pbn does anythink magical think again ???...

    the whole idea of pbn is to keep growing pbn till your money website hit the top of the niche/keyword

    I am not being rude but maybe your niche keyword to popular to be pbn challenged .... I no any keyword can be pbn challenged but it the amount of pbn needed that stop ppl doing it

    have you also checked the host you got the pbn on , is it ipv4 or ipv6 ? have you spam checked it for it spam record ?

    everything counts

    I wanted to no how many pbn you got going to see why you are so confident that pbn don't work no more ?

    If you want to no the truth pbn can not die because Google rely on backlinks if Google changed all the whole system I am sure backlinks will still be used so pbn will never really die.....
     
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  8. trollini

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    PBNs are likely the only way that will survive to google
     
  9. faithjhung

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    Just done reading. I think it is more about the keyword you are trying to rank. Looks tough with all the work you've done. Have you tried targeting other keywords?
     
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    well shite sherlock...
     
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    i did read here several time that people saying the PBN links are not as powerful as they used to be ... but not about a time constrain.
    new pages need time in general so ....
     
  12. patlang

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    This thread is a joke and having read most of the posts here of the guys having +2000 reputation I just can't believe it.... Do you think google is that primitive that they can't recognise a PBN? It is not about metrics but about how you SET UP your pbn.
    Google can easily see when the domain was expired (registration date)
    Google can easily see that the content has totally changed and doesn't suit the old one
    Google can easily see that old urls were not recreated because of too many 404.

    Read it here https://blog.easyblognetworks.com/2015/causes-for-pbn-blogs-deindexation-backed-by-data/

    Your PBN doesn't need to be deindexed in order to fail passing link juice because you would need a manual action for this. In such a case an algorithm will remove any link power, the PBN will be indexed however doesn't work at all.

    Noone will tell you this here because they either don't want your PBNs to always work or they are so stupid that they don't even know what works or not and just spread this bullshit here.

    So remember it is not 100% about metrics/history/anchors/hosting etc. It is more about how you set your PBN up. It's 2017 - please adopt.
     
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    I think they technically have to work because they have aged links + aged content + aged, long indexed domain that once had real traffic

    once you get a link from homepage it means all of these above now is combined & focused directly on one outbound link, which goes to your site

    If that combination is not working, then I dont know what will do. I need to start using PBNs :)
     
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    are you posting in every pbn utter tripe desperately trying to sell your little link rings lad?
     
  15. Nargil

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    Where people who registered a month ago take courage to even quote someone who has been a valued member of community for almost a decade is beyond me.
     
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  16. donkey-kong

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    I am with the OP post on this, he was and is in a similar situation to me a week or two ago when i came asking good questions to get slapped by trolls. It's my lengthy previous experience that tells me I've "normally" done enough to take down a search but for some reason boss has flat lined me for a month or so. scenario1.png


    Google is reacting different to a couple of years ago. so it's competitive? So what i used to be able to chew that in three months with 18 hour shifts 6 days a week chicken feed.

    Now with similar effort if not more and much longer, screenshot attached.

    I haven't put on any big links yet which is what I suspect the issue is, google might want some proof to backup the website size/quantity with some big links. So I'll put some on soon and monitor results from there if this shit don't move up on its own.

    Edit, no Im not saying they are dead sorry, I am saying somethings changed drastically.
     
  17. donkey-kong

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    his post is as usual derogatory useless shit, with his PBN adverts attached. I don't care if you've got 1 or a million posts, make a good contribution get respected, make shit get shit.
     
  18. Nargil

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    OP did not ask a question. He posted a conclusion based on absolutely no data.

    And thus OP got shit.

    So where's the problem here then? :)
     
  19. donkey-kong

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    The OP is along the right ish lines he just got his words wrong. PBNs are not dead but you could easily think they are based on a two month test which if you was about a couple of years ago which I suspect you was, his results would look alot more straight line.
     
  20. donkey-kong

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    and yeah there's a load of crap in his post but I get his point he just needs to understand and outa pure frustration i also posted my situation last week although, I already knew the answer was patience, I just wanted it confirmed, unfortunately i got owned by trolls but thats ok i set up a thread of my own to smash trolls shortly after.