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The power of GSA in 2015? What search term volume are you ranking for?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jamie3000, Sep 26, 2015.

  1. jamie3000

    jamie3000 Supreme Member

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    So I'm frequently reading GSA isnt a effective as it used to be, but I also read it still works if used correctly. Would anyone be willing to share what volume of search terms they're using purely link building software such as GSA to rank for? I.e a 84000 monthly search term or a 5000 monthly searches term etc.

    I'm trying to get an idea of how effective it still is before I invest several weeks of my time learning how to use it properly...

    Thanks all :)
     
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    Scritty BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    I use GSA all the time, but never on its own.
    The last time I used it unaided was probably 2013 and then I got a couple of small sites to page one for long tail terms with about 22,000 potential visits per month. I got about 4,000 on one site and under 500 visits on the other per month. The 500 a month site got slapped early in 2015 (but had made many times my investment in it by then)

    I now use GSA for creating whatever high value links it can for second tier and then a less refined third tier (which I use for indexing - I don't use a specific indexing tier any more)

    Link quantity wise when creating great second tier I'm happy with it making 350 links a day
    When I lower the quality for indexing tier I expect 5000 links plus a day from it. I know it can create more, but I'm quite specific about what sites types I use and what metrics those sites must have before I link from them.

    Scritty
     
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  3. j0hnd03

    j0hnd03 Newbie

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    Is not working anymore because I think google build a blacklist with all the sites where GSA can post... so if you got backlinks from that sites is not worth anymore... also I should try to post on sites which they are fresh but it will not work for a long time because if google do that, sooner or later they will add that freh sites too to their blacklist.... a few years ago I ranked even 100k searches per month keyword... not 1st place but first page on results.
     
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    neu009 Senior Member

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    Yes so true, Google has a blacklist of millions and millions of pages (and all platforms) that GSA is capable to build links on. Not only that they also saw the capability of using custom platforms so they took those out too. So all links now are useless, SEO is dead!

    /irony off
     
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    Rua999 Power Member

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    Your not being smart you're just being ignorant to the list of disavowed links they have.
     
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    ROFL - yes SOME sites, not millions.

    So your also saying google can see millions of custom platforms and disallow also. LOL
     
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    This can't be true. There are millions of legit sites using those same platforms where SER can post to. It has probably got to do more with the site quality (backlinks to it) and OBL-s.
     
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    Gas ist good but only for 2nd and 3rd tier and better to not use it !
     
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    What's everyone using for tier 1 now then? Guest posts? Dead link building?
     
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    A lot of people use PBN links as tier1.
     
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    gsa ser still works wonders if used correctly and along with prjacker. i have no issues ranking sites strictly using gsa ser
     
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    those of you who say that GSA SER cannot be using for tier 1 have no idea what they are talking about. It can be used for tier 1 - for this thing you have to use keywords if you want related backlinks and settings page for website metricts it will post to. Pair these backlinks with some guest posts / pbns and webs2.0 and you'll be golden. Don't overcomplicate seo and don't think that Google is that smart. For sure google isn't that smart algorithm that most of you state. And remember SEO isn't overnight thing. It takes time. Get your keywords on serpbook or any other rank tracking tool and check how your backlinks impacts rankings. You will learn overtime.
     
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  13. Scritty

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    I originally thought that is how this would work - but it isn't

    Google get links disavowed for many different reasons - the most common of which is nothing to do with them coming from a poor quality site
    Eaily the most common is them coming from a site or URL that is not relevant for the link as far as the site it points to because it is written in a different language, is on a different topic.
    People also disavow millions of links from perfectly good sites because they are scared of anchor text diversity, see a 12% density, list all the sites with that anchor text and then just disavow 2/3rds of them to get their AT density down

    I thought (and even blogged) that Google were using disavowers to do their dirty work for them - but it seems they aren't. John Mueller has said more than once that people either disavow too few links or, increasingly blanket disavow loads of very good ones out of fear. It's a real mess of DIY site fixers making a right mess of cleaning up their link profiles for all sorts of reasons and sifting the poor sites out of that lot (the really poor sites - not just the ones that are inappropriate for a link to a particular niche) would be a nightmare.

    It may have been what Google hoped for almost 3 years ago, but it isn't what is happening

    Want to know THE 3 site where the most disavowed links come from?

    Blogger
    Wordpress.com (the none self host)
    and Reddit

    Rest assured those sites are rock solid, links on them made in context on the appropriate pages and none spammed are rock solid.

    If GSA doesn't create good second tier links for you? You're doing it wrong because it certainly does for me
    (Though if you are talking first tier links I wouldn't know. Haven't used it for those for years and never thought the tool was better than "ok" at doing that)

    Scritty
     
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    Its good to use GSA if your website has some good backlinks already :)
     
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    I understand that people disavow links to reduce their anchor text diversity, and i can see why those sites you mentioned would be high in the pecking order in terms of most disavowed links because they're popular sites that allow user generated content, but it wouldn't take too much work for Google to go through the list of disavowed links manually and disregard these type of high quality sites from the rest. And by the rest i mean sites that appear on the list many many times, or in other words sites that make up a high percentage of total disavowed links. Surely you can see that sites that are easily spamable are going to appear more often than sites that people are just going to disavow to reduce their anchor text ratios. I don't use GSA SER anymore not even for tier 2 links by the way.

    But to the other couple of comments aimed my way about millions of platforms and what not.. i never mentioned anything about platforms. IMO it has nothing to do with platforms, it's to do with the list of disavowed links. Lets say PHPBB is a platform that's heavily spammed by GSA SER users - im in no way saying that any link from a PHPBB site is a crap link, i don't know where that idea came from. If i set a site up on a quality domain tomorrow and installed PHPBB or any other platform that GSA SER supports and linked to a site with it i would expect that site to receive some sort of ranking boost so long as the page i created the link on was related to the niche site i was linking to. But if that site was then heavily spammed and disavowed many many times i wouldn't have the same opinion.

    It often seems to me that not a bad word can be said about GSA SER without people getting defensive about it. I've said all of this plenty of times in the past as well, even when people were still ranking by using it for tier one links and ranking for huge keywords.

    Also, Google don't need to know EVERY site that can be spammed with GSA SER. Obviously i don't work for Google so only they can answer this, but i would assume that they only need to see that a certain percentage of your site's backlink profile comes from known sites on the disavow list to know that something is amiss.
     
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    GSA links are good for tiers 2 and above, never use as tier 1 unless your website doesnt have long term goals.
     
  17. jamie3000

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    Thanks for the detailed replies guys, I'm certainly leaning plenty of useful information :)
     
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    obviously you don't know what you are talking about.
    I always used and use nowadays GSA for tier1 links. Use specific keywords, domain metrics and submitted(not all links get verified right away) limit per day - and you will see the magic happen even without PBNs
     
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    It works really well if you sell something on amazon. You can rank anything on amazon pages that just cannot be penalized thus counter acting google blacklists if you hunt for fresh new sites to post on.

    Plus if you make automated spam on amazons actual site linking to your product page the link juice flows straight into your page and helps you a lot lot more!!!!! Amazon is untouchable in google eyes because jeff bezo and larry page love each other.

    All jokes aside you can make a lot of cash like that.