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The Plight of Duplicate Copy

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Toby, Jan 1, 2008.

  1. Toby

    Toby Regular Member

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    Hey Everyone,

    Master marketer, Jerry West, just emailed me this...

    As the New Year approaches on the east coast, I thought to end the year I'd pass along a tip every webmaster should know, but unfortunately doesn't.

    The article and video should take about 6 minutes to go through and the fix takes 8 minutes or less for the average webmaster to do. So, start to finish you're in this in under 15 minutes - and the benefits to your site will be incredible ... mostly internal duplicate content will no longer be working against you.

    This one is worth your time. Trust me.

    Here is the article:

    < http://www.webmarketingnow.com/tips/internal-duplicate-content-fix.html >

    Have a great New Year and I'll continue in '08 doing all the research and testing to benefit your business online so you can dominate.

    Best Regards

    Hope this helps my friends!!!
     
  2. nicho

    nicho Regular Member

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    thanks for the tip l enjoyed reading it
     
  3. Toby

    Toby Regular Member

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    Nicho...Let's get together in early 2008 and talk. I ned what you are offering!!:p
     
  4. BuzzKill

    BuzzKill Executive VIP

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    Whats the consensus on duplicate content filters, do you think its a % of the content on the page, do you think it applies to navigation menues, how deep does it go? If I have 5 pages with 5 words each, could they be penalized for 25% of the words being similar, or is it format, all of the above?

    I ask because I tested silo linking structure on a 5 page site, each page only has one sentence on it, none of the pages are supplemental and actually get searches in a someone competitive niche. Each page only links to the next page and back to the home page, the home page contains a sentence with 5 keywords in it, all linking to the associated page.
     
  5. nicho

    nicho Regular Member

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    Duplicate content filters as a guide they suggest your content should be at least 30 to 40 percent rewritten its a minefiled as there are so many opinions on it and although l try to test every element of what l do its hard sometimes to get it right so now l ensure that all of my copy articles content have a minimum of 80% rewrite bu l do that in less than a minute using contentrewriterpro , l would be lost without it.

    If you have watched the stomper videos they state that poor navigation effects your conversion and attracts close scrutiny from the search engines and that you should bold the categories sub headers .
     
  6. flowth2k

    flowth2k Registered Member

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    duplicate content doest exist, but it wont penalise your website.

    Google algorithm with duplicate content its pretty primitive. Your site will only be hurt if you start duplicate an ENTIRE website, including templates and shit.

    I'm saying this for experience, thi sis the best way to learn seo, doing things on your own.

    Dont do what the gurus say. This thread is such a guru mentality. The gurus want you to think that duplicate content exist, to have less competition, cuz they use blacktools to scrape content from article directories and make $1000's of dollars a day.

    Just drive several backlinks to your duplicate content pages and you will be fine.

    Maybe in a few years google algorithm do dupe willl become much more sophisticated. But now, its just a myth.

    Just do your own experience and tell me the results.
     
  7. battman323

    battman323 Regular Member

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    A lot of people ask about duplicate content and even make statements about it, but have never even read what Google's poilicies are regarding duplicate content. To help faciliate this discussion, I am pasting exactly what Google says about duplicate content, therefore making this thread a competitor with Google's page for duplicate content...

    "Duplicate content generally refers to substantive blocks of content within or across domains that either completely match other content or are appreciably similar. Mostly, this is not deceptive in origin. Examples of non-malicious duplicate content could include:

    * Discussion forums that can generate both regular and stripped-down pages targeted at mobile devices
    * Store items shown or linked via multiple distinct URLs
    * Printer-only versions of web pages

    However, in some cases, content is deliberately duplicated across domains in an attempt to manipulate search engine rankings or win more traffic. Deceptive practices like this can result in a poor user experience, when a visitor sees substantially the same content repeated within a set of search results.

    Google tries hard to index and show pages with distinct information. This filtering means, for instance, that if your site has a "regular" and "printer" version of each article, and neither of these is blocked in robots.txt or with a noindex meta tag, we'll choose one of them to list. In the rare cases in which Google perceives that duplicate content may be shown with intent to manipulate our rankings and deceive our users, we'll also make appropriate adjustments in the indexing and ranking of the sites involved. As a result, the ranking of the site may suffer, or the site might be removed entirely from the Google index, in which case it will no longer appear in search results.

    There are some steps you can take to proactively address duplicate content issues, and ensure that visitors see the content you want them to.

    * Consider blocking pages from indexing: Rather than letting Google's algorithms determine the "best" version of a document, you may wish to help guide us to your preferred version. For instance, if you don't want us to index the printer versions of your site's articles, disallow those directories or make use of regular expressions in your robots.txt file.
    * Use 301s: If you've restructured your site, use 301 redirects ("RedirectPermanent") in your .htaccess file to smartly redirect users, Googlebot, and other spiders. (In Apache, you can do this with an .htaccess file; in IIS, you can do this through the administrative console.)
    * Be consistent: Try to keep your internal linking consistent. For example, don't link to http://www.example.com/page/ and http://www.example.com/page and http://www.example.com/page/index.htm.
    * Use top-level domains: To help us serve the most appropriate version of a document, use top-level domains whenever possible to handle country-specific content. We're more likely to know that http://www.example.de contains Germany-focused content, for instance, than http://www.example.com/de or de.example.com.
    * Syndicate carefully: If you syndicate your content on other sites, Google will always show the version we think is most appropriate for users in each given search, which may or may not be the version you'd prefer. However, it is helpful to ensure that each site on which your content is syndicated includes a link back to your original article. You can also ask those who use your syndicated material to block the version on their sites with robots.txt.
    * Use webmaster tools to tell us how you prefer your site to be indexed: You can tell Google your preferred domain (for example, http://www.example.com or http://example.com).
    * Minimize boilerplate repetition: For instance, instead of including lengthy copyright text on the bottom of every page, include a very brief summary and then link to a page with more details.
    * Avoid publishing stubs: Users don't like seeing "empty" pages, so avoid placeholders where possible. For example, don't publish pages for which you don't yet have real content. If you do create placeholder pages, use robots.txt to block these from being crawled.
    * Understand your content management system: Make sure you're familiar with how content is displayed on your web site. Blogs, forums, and related systems often show the same content in multiple formats. For example, a blog entry may appear on the home page of a blog, in an archive page, and in a page of other entries with the same label.
    * Minimize similar content: If you have many pages that are similar, consider expanding each page or consolidating the pages into one. For instance, if you have a travel site with separate pages for two cities, but the same information on both pages, you could either merge the pages into one page about both cities or you could expand each page to contain unique content about each city.

    Duplicate content on a site is not grounds for action on that site unless it appears that the intent of the duplicate content is to be deceptive and manipulate search engine results. If your site suffers from duplicate content issues, and you don't follow the advice listed above, we do a good job of choosing a version of the content to show in our search results.

    However, if our review indicated that you engaged in deceptive practices and your site has been removed from our search results, review your site carefully. If your site has been removed from our search results, review our webmaster guidelines for more information. Once you've made your changes and are confident that your site no longer violates our guidelines, submit your site for reconsideration.

    If you find that another site is duplicating your content by scraping (misappropriating and republishing) it, it's unlikely that this will negatively impact your site's ranking in Google search results pages. If you do spot a case that's particularly frustrating, you are welcome to file a DMCA request to claim ownership of the content and request removal of the other site from Google's index."

    Now that everybody knows what duplicate content actually is, is it easy for Google to find duplicate content and penalize it? Only if you make it so. You can protect yourself from most possible duplicate content penalties with unique title and description meta tags. I used to have trouble getting pages to appear because I was lazy about changing the meta information - that's what Google means about using templates. It's ok to use a site template, just make sure it's customized in all the right places.
     
  8. minim

    minim Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Thanks for linking that from Google, wasn't aware of that.
     
  9. schaum

    schaum Newbie

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    awesome. the point about legal disclaimers and other content (navbars) that are on every single page should be minimized for maximum effect.
     
  10. flowth2k

    flowth2k Registered Member

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    Just buy Jonathan Leger's ebook called: "Search Engine Myths Exposed"

    Its not released yeat. But i've read it, and its going to reveral the 8 most important google myths.

    Duplicate content is one of those.

    I dont change anything, even meta tags.

    I just drive hordes of backlinks and my pages rank well, only with scraped articles from ezinearticles.

    Do yourself a favor. BUY THE EBOOK AT JANUARY 9 !!!!!