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The overwhelmed noobie

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by WhiteAl, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. WhiteAl

    WhiteAl Registered Member

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    Alright, so maybe part of this post should have gone to the "introductions" section, but letz be honest here, who really takes the time to read those "hey, Im new here, greetings all" with the reply, "Hey! Welcome to the forum"?

    It was just about the end of november when I started (but just very lightly) getting into the whole "searching for ways on how to make money online" (should I say this:?) lifestyle (cause by now, it seems like thats what it's really starting to become now) (and yeah, I like writing with many () comments inbetween), and I dont know how many of you guys started out like this, but when I started to get into the whole shmeagen of things, I was the almost perfectly typical "hungrey for knowledge and any possible ways of making money online noob", hungrily accepting all and any info from any website, filling out every "and just enter your email address and first name to receive these thousands of dollars worth of free money-making-info ebooks now" opt-in or squeez page form, clicking on almost all google adwords ads related to any type of make-money-online subject (at least I made the adsense owners happy for that) and then -reading-browsing-searching-doing_more_reading and then doing even more reading-browsing-searching-doing_more_reading on all ways, ideas, tips, tricks, help, info, material, articles, programs, reviews, systems, techniques, procedures, everything on how to make money online (and you thought I was gonna finally put a period there, huh?, alright, well here we go then: ) . (that was btw all one sentence all up there).
    So anyway, long things put short, (I was about to write a whole chronological history of what happened with me since I first started making money online, but I just changed my mind, would take too long. Since if I already wrote all that above already, Im not just gonna erase it.) Im what Id like to call "quadruple overwhelmed".
    I say this because on top of all the endless amounts of info bombardments everyone already experiences on the net, first, I found a site where (after you signed up) you received instant access to hundreds of money-making-help related ebooks (and I do not even have to mention the fact of them all being supposedly worth somewhere between $50-100, having the combined value of thousands of dollars), then I found some money-making forums (then even more money related forums, all information rich), later more subcatagorized- affiliate-help forums (again, all packed with info), then I came across the gurusecret.info forum which gave instant access to all the high-priced clickbank internetmoney ebook how-to's , all which I temporarily kept superiority-regards to until then, but all which basically after that, suddenly just lost all previously held value (its so intrigueing that when I first read all the internet hype about products like google assassin or its previous brother dayjobkiller, I was so tottaly sales-pitch-capivated, having a great desire to just be able to read all that "secret" info impulsivly, with only my strong inner-defence-voice keeping me away (thankfully) saying "no, dont spend your hard earned money on that", and now with me actually having powers of being able to read those books, money-risk-free, up to this very day, I havent read dayjobkiller or googleassassin (those 2 just being examples) - rather funny I think) and then I found digital point (which we gotta admit, really does have huge amounts of info, new program introductions and just an innumerble amount of possible smaller or bigger profit-opportunitys getting pushed through each day) giving yet another overwhelming load, and after that I found this forum, another instantly added, staggering haul of potential knowledge - and on the very top of all that, I just now upgraded my free BHW account to premium, giving unrestricted access to the forum, leting me look into the VIP download section to be overwhelmed yet again already from just looking at the very first page of possible downloads.
    SHA-JESUS! I said to myself, when I finally realized all which I have uncovered by now. I could actually spend years reading all the info I came upon. Damn do I have a lots of reading to do. But thats when It hit me: If I just spend all my time reading-studying, when am I actually gonna be making the money?
    Like when I read the ebook googlepayload, which had quite some hype and was sales-painted as being such an easy way to make money (and I read several reviews of the ebook that all claimed how effortlessly its possible to make like $100 a day with the info from the book) and after I read it, I was left with still just sooo many questions on how to successfully execute the method. It wasnt the exact blueprint to success I expected.
    The best, I realized after that, would be If I could somehow have some personal support, someone who knows what their doing that I could talk to and learn from. A mentor, an experienced master on the subject. But if not even that, just someone who could answer my questions, and explain just a few unclear things for me.
    So actually, I just wanted to ask if some experianced web-money-maker would be willing to help me out a bit, by answering some questions for me, and maybe willing to give some personal advice. Could I ask anyone for that?
    I would be extremely thankful for anyones help of a hand.
    -WhiteAl
     
  2. Essential Clix

    Essential Clix Executive VIP Premium Member

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    You should change the title to "The overwhelming noobie" J/K ;) That's one hell of an essay you wrote up! Feel free to drop me a line if you have any questions. If I have spare time, I'll answer them to the best of my knowledge.

    I think you'll find that most people here won't be willing to help you out TOO much, though. Most just have way too much on their plate already.

    Remember this: Success in this business comes from hard work and trial-and-error.

    As I'm sure you already know, this forum is a virtual gold mine of information. I know it's overwhelming, but keep up your initiative and continue reading. Eventually all the tumblers will fall into place.
     
  3. WhiteAl

    WhiteAl Registered Member

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    Yeah, as I observed the forum, I noticed that all the ppl (like usual) are short of time.
    But just tell me, where would it be best to place my questions, as in what part of the forum would it be the best to post them? As it is now, I do have a few. Im just thinking that If I start making threads in this section for example, of question #1, question #2 so on, then like after a week, about half the front page of the BHW lounge would be questions asked by me. I just wanna ask if that would be okay. A positive side of this would be that Im sure other noobs (and I saw there are quite some blacknoobs out there) could appreciate the questions too, since Im sure a bunch of them have similar hazynesses as well.
    You know what, you actually just convinced me to do just that. Yepp, thats what Ill do. I start posting threads titled: (question x), (question z).
    Fantastic. (but Ill still rather w8 for a response to this first).
     
  4. Essential Clix

    Essential Clix Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Feel free to ask away. Just post your questions in the appropriate section. If you're unsure which section, post it to BlackHat SEO or The Lounge. A mod will move it to the correct section, if we think it belongs elsewhere.
     
  5. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    no matter what business you start, try to put some time apart and read as much as you can, try to keep up to date with everything going on. Think about this: You want to make a living online right? In a normal day job, you spend at least let's say 4 years in college to gain all the knowledge you need in order to fulfill the requirement of your job. What makes you think that you just need several hours of reading online, and puff you are ready to make more money than you do at any day job. All the good marketers in online, - well let's say most of them- have read a lot at their live-including plenty of shit- and have failed a lot at their time- including wasting a lot money.
    So do not feel depressed if something is not going right from the beginning. Just read a lot, apply a lot, and see what s working good for you.
     
  6. WhiteAl

    WhiteAl Registered Member

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    Thanks Nick, I didnt think about all the other marketers online about how they probably all failed in the begining. And Im sure 99% of ppl who try to make money online fail too, otherswise everyone would be rich from the net (but theres only a finite amount of goods here to share). And after just reading about just how many "ultimate wealth package" and "automated cash income" ebooks got sold online in the past (those were just random examples that came to my mind, but letz admit it, there are countless amounts of those types of huge-promises-for-easy-money-online ebooks, most worth shit) you realize that there must be a shit load of ppl who, even if they didnt get shit from it all, most likely tried to make money online. So yeah, I have to agree with you, Im sure success doesnt come in a week, but only after much hard work, even if that hard work is much reading/studying, then trial/error and the thinking things through, gaining experiance etc.

    Well, I dont know why, but just after I posted this thread, somehow, I just couldnt access this site, kept getting php errors, and couldnt solve the problem, but now as my hopes promised me, things got fixed by themselves and I have access to the forum again.

    Ive decided to start a series of question, all indenpendent of each other and many related to varying subjects. And since I want to keep these able to be found easily at a later time, Im going to give them all the same pre-name of "qsp-(number here)" which will stand for either "question series part (number here)" or "question series post (number here)", where the "number here" will be the number of the post (1st post, 2nd post, 10th post etc.).
    And Ive decided to award the person who I thought helped me out the most. After like the 15th-20th question, Ill give the chosen guru a $50 award (hey, Im still a poor guy, still a noob on the internet, so that would be alot for me), but If I have more money, and think that I was helped really alot, then Ill pay even more. Its not really a contest, its just rather a reward of thankfulness. So Im just gonna go ahead and post my first question, which actually really wont be that much of a standout-question either.
     
  7. khuram

    khuram Newbie

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    I am so over loaded with info right now... although I know a good amount of black hat stuff, there's a good amount i dont know...

    when i found this forum.. i was like OMG

    i know where the rest of my week will be spent ;-)
     
  8. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    Chill down, to be honest, dont go to the download section... it wont help you!
     
  9. mpruben

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    There are many, many (many) ways to make money on the internet. Unfortunately, being human, we can't focus on more than a couple at a time.

    My advice would be to select one single area and try it for a couple of weeks. If it doesn't work out, move on to another area. Start with something that only costs a minimal amount of money to setup. Making the first $20 will give you a tremendous confidence boost.

    Trying to understand everything, or reading dozens of ebooks, will only give you a headache.
     
  10. WhiteAl

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    How is it that I should comprehend that? I mean, dont tell me all the stuff in the download section is useless. Or are you only trying to say that I shouldnt go there while Im still a noob because I probably cant use 90% of the stuff I could find there?
    For the time being right now, I see all these softwares up here posted by members, like "video post robot", "Server Based Article Submitter", "MyGen AutoInstaller", "Blog n' Ping", and whole bunch of other software or other stuff that I simply dont understand, and all I really want to do, is get to the point where I can be in a position where all I would have to do would be "work". To be where pretty much most of the experts here are at: know everything on what to do, why and how, and then only need to actually have the diligence to then "just do it".
    So I guess what you meant was that I should just keep away from the download section here until I know what the fuck Im doing in the first place, right?
     
  11. nephalim

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    Nothing wrong with grabbing interesting stuff because many times the links expire and you won't find it there later. The most important thing is to begin.... If you just keep downloading it's like spinning your wheels.

    Do you have the first skills of an online marketer? Can you make a web site? Do you know how to put an ad code on a page? Do you know how to install a script? Do you understand how to use image files? Then on to using video and audio and RSS; or how to make a pdf or exe ebook. Do you need help with these? There are several nice tutorials. Begin with one skill and master it and then build with the next thing in your list.

    Have you decided where you want your focus to be? It's then a matter or holding that focus until one project is ready for that "ta-daaa" moment.