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The only soluton to penalized EMD

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Adam718, Sep 29, 2012.

  1. Adam718

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    The SEO world has taken a huge hit today with this new EMD targeting update, but we've evolved to become very adaptive creatures that bring a new meaning to "when there's a will, there's a way."

    One of my clients EMD sites just got hit, and that's really bad for business. The only "right now" solution I can think of right now is to create another website with a non-EMD name and 301 from the EMD. I'm thinking that since these rank drops aren't due to a link penalty, but rather just because its an EMD, then the link juice would help a new site climb the ranks.

    Anyone one have some input on why this would or wouldn't work?
     
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    thats what i'n doing plus i'm creating more domains targeting the same keyword space.
     
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    The only problem I'd see with this solution is that the penalty would eventually transfer to the new domain.
     
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    All of these little Google updates are designed to confuse the webmaster community and obscure their intent to push all organic listings off of the first page of the serps. One day, in the not so distant future, a #1 organic listing may be on page two or three. Get ahead of the curve and plan how you will deal with that. In doing so, you will find yourself less reliant on Google because one day soon you may have to pay for any traffic originating from Google - even if you have #1 organic positions across the board.
     
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    Not exactly all about EMD. Read the threads again.
     
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    Thats already happened in many niches. For example, search for NAIL FUNGUS and what do you see? I dont think youll find one affiliate site on the 1st page. The 1st affiliate starts on page #2 and is a facebook fan page converted to an affiliate site. .gov sites on the 1st page? How is a .gov site related to a disease?
     
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    Sadly, I know this firsthand. I've abandoned multiple niches already because there is no way to compete with 100% paid ads above the fold unless you pay Google, which I will not do. Google is expanding their takeover of organic search, which is why I routinely remind others what is going on. By the time many people do recover from a penalty or establish new sites, they may find that their niches are no longer lucrative with even the best organic positions.

    Google is ridding affiliates from the first page of the SERPS to promote Google shopping opportunities so they can make money and not us. That is quite apparent when searching for nail fungus. Everything else besides Google product listings are definitions, etc. Talk about eliminating the competition and giving those searching for products only one option (Google shopping of course)!
     
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    Won't the 301 just pass on the link juice though? So if the EMD has a good, diverse link profile, shouldn't it do good for a non-emd?
     
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    I wonder why an EMD would be hit by Google, only because of the domain name. I mean if an EMD website has good quality content, an intelligent link profile and is updated at least once in a month - Why should Google penalize it!
     
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    Google is cornering the market in everything, they are after all a public company who look for the best possible return for the shareholders. Essentially that means they will exclude everything but their own sales portals from the first page of the organic. Money into their and their shareholders pockets rather than yours.
     
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    That is the reason you should own their stock. Things are going in 1 direction at the moment.
     
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    we don't know. you have to test and keep testing. i am going to 301 to 1 new site and then create possibly 4 other sites all targeting the exact main keyword with variety. my goal now is to dominate a large portion of the 1st page. google has forced me to do this. i have a family to feed. f(*^it

     
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    ahem *cough*socialtraffic*cough*~!
     
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    EMD was one of good SEO tricks. Now people have to think of it..
     
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    Cloaking again again wtf?
     
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    Today I was planing to open new topic and ask " how to deal with emd " but after reading this thread some of the questions in my mind answered.

    So how about this idea?

    Because of EMD most keywords in google has no website with affiliate links or something similar. Could this be chance for us to just create new website with non-emd domain and add quality content about the keyword and place ads, after that get some backlink and try to rank #1 or at least get a rank at first page ?
     
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    what was the reason it was slapped? If it was an EMD with no bad links and good content you should have been okay
     
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    A lot of high quality EMD's were hit. Cutts said they're targeting "low quality EMDs" but that is complete and utter bullshit. This algo just penalizes anything it finds. Sure, some websites are slipping through, but I'm pretty sure google just set this update to "just blindly penalize at least half of EMD's on the internet."