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The "no sample to protect our network" is turning into a lame ass excuse for BST sellers!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Peter Ngo, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. Peter Ngo

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    Well it kind of hit on my nerve when people say "no sample to protect our network", why? Because it makes no fucking sense and it is damn annoying.

    Is it really that hard to set up 1 site that have similar stats to those within your network? Set them up in a totally different hosting + different register + different whois + no outbound link, with the sole purpose of just letting your buyer to see before they buy. Wouldn't be too expensive nor time consuming would it?

    With all seriously, if by exposing a sample site can reveal their whole network maybe they really shouldn't sell or manage their PBN.

    I was sold crap here for a few times just because of these lame "no sample to protect our network" excuses, if i had seen the sample, i wouldn't have paid a dime for those links. And yes, by asking for sample, i have got rid of various crappy sellers here.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Very nice point, man.
    I will not buy SEO services from someone who doesn't provide samples. Then again, I don't usually buy into PBNs.
     
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    I, on the other hand, would NEVER buy from a network that does give samples, or even reports!

    I can only assume that the sellers take the view that there are more people like me than like you, otherwise, they wouldn't sell much.
     
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  4. Peter Ngo

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    Yes, i will never buy from a network that give reports. But not giving samples is way too much isn't it? Now the sole purpose of not giving samples is no longer protecting their network but to sell crappy links.

    Happen way to often here.
     
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    Whats wrong with a sample? I totally understand no reports, but is it THAT hard to create a simple site that's unrelated to their PBN and just use that to show potential customers what their work is like?

    Whenever I'm thinking of trying some new food, I ask for a sample to see if I like it or not. Whenever I'm having a job done around my house, I usually see past work. Barbershops usually have tons of pictures of past work.

    How hard is it to just build up one site for the use of samples, doesn't have to be their best domain, but its kinda important to see how the writing is, link profile is, etc. Its easy for them to advertise 25+ DA 20+ TF but have shitty links

    Why would you never buy from a PBN that provides a sample, wanna know how this pose as a risk to your links when the sample is totally unrelated. Like OP said, if they are worried that exposing one site they own publicly is gonna somehow link all the way back to their PBN, thats not a good provider to get links from.
     
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    I can understand it for a number of sales threads, as it is too easy for networks to get outed, but there are definitely a couple of threads where I am suspicious and it doesn't really make sense.
    You get the feeling that they don't want to provide samples or reports because they are doing jack shit work and just collecting their monthly subs lol
    Again, I think stick to the trusted guys and you should be OK, do a bit of research on the seller. A little bit of due diligence can go a long way.
     
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    If you buy links from someone that hands out samples like candy you are asking for an asshole reaming. Why?

    1. The seller obviously only cares about making a few dollars and not the longevity of the service.
    2. If you don't think Google employees are here asking for samples you need to put down the pipe.
     
  8. cashcrateaddict

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    Still dont understand whats wrong with providing a sample. The sample should be totally separate from any other site the owner owns. He's not suppose to provide a site he's selling links on but a site set up just for the use as a sample.

    Sellers talk highly of their many class ips, and how secure and safe their network is, but if thats the case, a sample site should have no affect on their pbn