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The myth of working for yourself - RANT

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  1. UrsuAke

    UrsuAke Power Member

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    Just ranting here but, I want to talk about the dream most of the BHW users have: to start making money working for themselves or to quit the 9-5 job and work for themselves. Most of the noobs here or junior providers don't really know what it exactly means and I've seen a lot of them make inexcusable mistakes. I just wanted to make people reflect on this: are you really working for yourself?! Are you really your own boss?!

    Most common cases of "working for yourself":

    1) By creating a business offering either services/products or both.
    2) Creating online properties and monetizing them (authority websites, MNS, affiliate e-commerce sites, etc.)

    Let's break them down:

    1) Business offering services/products.


    Most of the users here that have reached that level can confirm that "being your own boss" in this case is not accurate at all. You just switch one boss for many. The boss is formed of the customers that, in some cases, can be bigger jerks than any boss on this planet. There are benefits compared with a 9 to 5 job. For example, the profits generated or the direction your company can take (you keep most of the profits instead of a shitty paycheck and get to choose what your company does). But with the benefits come several other drawbacks: more responsibility, more stress, bigger workload in some cases and greater risks.

    2) Creating an online property.

    This is debatable and there are lots of views on the matter but when you think about it, you still have a boss, it's called "the users" or "the visitors" whichever you fancy :) . If the users don't like what they see on your websites, they'll fire your ass as fast as any boss on this earth.

    The point I'm trying to make is that, even if you have the feeling your working for yourself, in fact you're not. You're still working for others but with greater responsibility and better benefits, so you should act accordingly, treating the clients/customers as you would treat an employer, because that's what they are.

    So final note, treat your clients

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    And you'll be fine. :alien01:
     
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  2. ehinoze

    ehinoze Power Member

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    great words my friend.thanks for inspiring noobs.every one will learn something here
     
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  3. Roparadise

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    You are always working for yourself whether its a 9-5 or running a website or company. Why is BHW so obsessed with this?
     
  4. Moosey

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    The difference is, putting up with your clients can be much more enjoyable than dealing with a boss. If you take a professional approach, prevent scrope creep, and document everything a long the way, you'll be fine.
     
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    The only time you will be your very own boss is the time when you are TRULY working towards your own GOALS.
    When you walk the road of success you will be your own boss, no matter where, how or who you work for.

    I believe that It is pretty straight forward the fact that in order to grow a business you will be growing other businesses and other people. Called networking, isnt it?

    Anyways, as said before, you will always be your own boss as long as your actions are towards a goal.
     
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  6. mikemeth

    mikemeth Power Member

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    Totaly agree with you, good points!
     
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  7. healzer

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    indeed, whether it is Fiverr or a million dollar deal, Clients are KING
     
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  8. UrsuAke

    UrsuAke Power Member

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    Preach it brother!!! Preach it!!! Hallelujah!
     
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  9. TheGardenGnome

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    A business is only a business if it is self sustaining, and the person that owns the business (YOU) can afford to take 6 months a year off and not affect the growth of the business.

    Unfortunately in IM when u take a vacation for a year no added profit or revenue stream is created in that sense, so IM is not truly a business that most people envision it to be, its more of working for yourself.

    You can hire someone to do it for you, but in the IM world if that person can do it he will probably set up his own "business".

    Just sharing what i think. :)
     
  10. healzer

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    so you think if you have an offline (real) business, then you (as a CEO) can take a 6 month vacation and expect profit?
    you're Bill Gates I assume?
     
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    If that's the way you're going to go about it, then you might as well quit everything and forget about doing anything. "Death" is your ultimate boss, the type of boss you can never defeat, the boss that will take everything away from you, so why bother? lol
     
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  12. UrsuAke

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    Death and taxes mate, death and taxes...
     
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  14. UrsuAke

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    Great twist Black.Star :)
     
  15. saifkhatri

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    I agree aswell what if you leave your 9-5 and you don't make any money

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    then you don't make any money?
     
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    Golden rule in business - If you have no customer - You have no business...
     
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    I can sum it up like this: at my regular job 2 hours is like 2 days but when it comes to IM i wish i had 92 hours in one day...Like they say if you do something you love than you will never work day in your life..
     
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