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The Most Effective Link Building Solution is....

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jesdon2, Aug 21, 2010.

  1. jesdon2

    jesdon2 Junior Member

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    Hey guys,

    I am in a bit of a bind at the moment and it is starting to effect my living situations. I really need your help here.

    A couple of years ago I became disabled due to a back injury and lost a 12 year career in commercial maintenance. I was at the top of my industry and had job offers across the U.S. paying nearly $30/hour. Once I was injured it has been a struggle ever since, nobody would hire me and I can't pass any physical tests or anything to get work.

    I taught myself seo and web design to make ends meet and put food on the table for my kids. At this point I have kind of maxed out on income and just can't overcome this money hurdle I have reached. I can't afford outsourcers at the moment and I am working in excess of 12 hours a day just to keep up the with the current earnings.

    I am in need of a serious solution to build mass backlinks and spread my efforts across more web properties. I have tried everything from Evo 2 to SEnuke to xrumer blasts and while they all have helped, the effectiveness just hasn't been there.

    I am hoping that you all can maybe list the most effective backlink tools or services that would help in my situation. I have about thirty websites at the moment, most have top 10 rankings and my earnings are primarily with Adsense. The money and potential is there, but scaling up to a point where i can survive is killing me.

    Any and all ideas are welcome, you guys and gals are the best of the best and I truly need your help.

    Thanks
     
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  2. S7apster

    S7apster Junior Member

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    I use senuke in conjunction with xrumer and scrapebox as well as market samurai for niche research.

    Good luck.
     
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  3. jesdon2

    jesdon2 Junior Member

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    Thank you for the reply. Are you doing anything to get these xrumer and senuke links indexed? One of the problems I had with xrumer especially was that like 1% of my xrumer links were actually showing up and giving me credit in Google. I like the idea of xrumer, but the effectiveness of the links seemed wasted.

    Is there something you might suggest to say get 50% of the backlinks indexed? Getting a higher index rate would mean fewer blasts per project and possibly quicker rankings which would help. But in my experience, pinging isn't worth the time and not sure what else to do.
     
  4. bellakong

    bellakong Junior Member

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    Consider being an Internet Marketing Consultant?
     
  5. jesdon2

    jesdon2 Junior Member

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    Not sure where I would start or how to find interested clients. I did a few small seminars for real estate agents a year or so ago, but to be honest my public speaking skills kind of suck. I can generally get my point across, but the path to get there can be a little bumpy. :)

    If you have any ideas to build on this I would love to hear them though, it is something I had not thought of.
     
  6. jesdon2

    jesdon2 Junior Member

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    Does anyone think that it would be easier to go with blog networks for link building than backlink tools like SEnuke? My guess would be that your blog posts are more likely to be indexed and at a faster rate as their published, though it would seem that creating enough content could quickly become a problem.

    I just need an option that would allow me to scale my efforts across more pages and sites in a short amount of time, while increasing rankings significantly. I have the skills, nearly every project I have ever worked on has gone into the top 10 for its targeted search terms, I just need the tools to make that happen faster and allow me to scale up.
     
  7. businessbira

    businessbira Power Member

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    It's off-topic but I feel I have to say this:

    Don't put all your eggs in one basket (i.e. Adsense).

    You never know what the future holds. If you lose your Adsense account, or your websites get deindexed for a while, you may be in trouble if your cashflow depends only on that source of income.

    Be prepared.
     
  8. sqhunter

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    Blog networks, like good ones like Linkvana will cost quite a lot of money monthly but seem very effective. Since you already have senuke i believe if you combine articles,web2.0, bookmarks, forum links you can call this already a mass linking tool.

    or you can get a trial of UAW and fire up 20 spun articles and point them to all your sites. UAW will fire out a heap of links. Then ask for a refund or cancel the trial

    maybe you need better content to be more successfull, consider some books from the library and scan these if you dont want to pay for articles.

    For making money also consider offline marketing, as the guy said, you are a seo expert :D so fire up a site on this and contact some local small-medium companies personally and give them a glimpse of the big money thats hiding on google frontpage. These business will hire somebody for seo that is a local. Pretend to be more than you are, blackhatstyle ! Seo is all about it. Nobody has a degree in this, good for you. You can make your current monthly income with few effort, if you are clever and sign a monthly contract.

    Few effort, because you will hire of course budget people from here to do your work and you can relax more with the kids.
     
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  9. jesdon2

    jesdon2 Junior Member

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    I don't consider myself an seo expert, but thank you! I am sure that there are a lot of guys that are a lot better at this than I am, but we are all still learning.

    You had a bunch of great ideas and I really appreciate all of them. Content is always an issue, though I am a native english speaker and my articles are decent, producing the quantity of content needed is a continuing problem.

    The library idea is great and I may have to try that out. Curious to hear what others here are doing for content on a regular basis. Are there any really cheap content writing services around that I should know about?

    Tried a few different programs, Instant Article Wizard etc., but wasn't too impressed and had quite a few problems with it.
     
  10. jesdon2

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    That is an excellent tip and I thank you for bringing it up. This actually did bite me in the ass last year, when I lost some rankings and my adsense income plummeted, I have since rebuilt and have started to add alternative income sources into the mix. However, I really find adsense to be an easy earner, which is why I like to use it.

    Affiliate marketing has always been harder for me, I guess because I have to convince people to buy a product, whereas with adsense I just stick it on the page and let me click without any obligation on their part.
     
  11. MagicMike

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    As Jesdon2 said above, I too have not had good luck lately with any xrumer links actually showing up as indexed. A VERY small percentage. Not sure if that is the norm or if we're missing something, but it is very disappointing.
     
  12. cowcow7

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    im not really sure
     
  13. Hisnibbs

    Hisnibbs Newbie

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    The thing about being an "expert" is you just have to know more than the person who is buying your skills. Don;t overstate where you're at but you don't have to tell them everything about what you know. No good consultant would do that and no client, no good client, would ask. Simply state what you can do, hey if you got front page listings on Google no matter what YOU think YOU are an SEO "Expert" ok, if that wrod make you feel uncomfortable then use "specialist".

    I think you need to reframe in your head your "expert" status, if you are putting wsites where they need to be seen someone will pay you to do that. That's gold for a company. If youdon;t feel comfortable saying "expert" use specialist and ensure your contract has caveats which state no results are guaranteed, no ad agency or marketing company would ever give their client a 100% money back guarantee that their profits will go up X. ANy client that demands that is going to be trouble, avoid.

    If you want help with how to market your services I have a few strategies I employ that gets results. Offline marketing (no MLM, dodgy online schemes) that gets the phone ringing for me.

    Bottom line is if you give a client an appraisal of their site, plus strategies to move it up the rankings and then you implement them THEY will see you as the expert and that, in the end, is all that matters.

    Definately get more than 1 stream of income, a simple risk assesment would should you dangerously exposed (not to scare you!) but the 80/20 rule should apply. SPend 80% of your time working on your projects that make money and 20% of your time developing new projects. Have you done a cost per hour income analysis, against a spend per hour on your outgoings? Work out exactly what you need to charge for the hours you work for your clients?

    Anyway, try to expand your area of expertise, go bak to your old networks and mine them, phone them and ask them if they know anyone who needs your services. Tell all, mention it to your kids school, other parents, local businesses.

    As for seminars panic not, public speaking is something I do, train and promote. It is a skill like any other that can be acquired. I'll be releasing something soon-ish that might help, but there are courses online that are very good.

    Here's one idea, find 10 businesses locally who are all quite close and all have websites, local paper or online directory will throw up the best to call.
    Find one of these companies that has a conference room, maybe even a net connection, but ask if you can use it for a lunch hour to hold a SEO seminar and one of their execs can attend for free. Doesn't have to be too fancy just big enough to hold up to 10 people.

    Then approach other companies till you have 9 attendees, here's how you get them interested. Tell them you are putting the finishing touches to a marekting course and want to get feedback from forward thinking business people such as them as they have a website and will understand the need for an effective web presence.
    Tell them that the value of a seat at the seminar will be 400 (dollars? pounds?) whatever but they can attend to for free if they are willing to give you feedback at the end of the 40 minute seminar.
    Some will say no, but a few will say yes, all you need is 5-6 in the room.
    Next go evaluate their websites and produce a report for each of them which highlights their top 10 problems and a sketchy outline of what the solution would be, and then also mention a list of other services they are missing out on. Put them in a sealed envelope with a voucher for your services up to £300 (dollars, pounds?)
    Then find the 10 or so common problems they all suffer from, type that problem up and what you do to solve it and then an example of someone who is high up the search engines who does this to prove your point. And for that you could use one of your own websites and show them it working in action. Immediate expert status in their minds. No pressure, no hard sale.

    OK, 10 problems, to fill 40 mins means you will speak for 4 mins max on each subject, and anyone can speak for 4 minutes on a problem or topic. Bear in mind you will all be sitting down around a table so it's not like public speaking and they will ask questions throughout probably.

    You then have 20 minutes for Q n A, note all the answers, better still record the seminar (basis for a product?). A the end of the 55 mins give them their free gift, your report and a voucher for 4 hours of your time valid for 1 year if they book an appointment with you inside 1 month to discuss using your services.

    Thank them for their time and hand out your business cards for them to give to other business owners they know and you will follow up with a transcript of the meeeting for them to peruse when you get it typed up.

    A week later you call them and ask when would be good to drop off the transcript as you don't want to risk it going missing as it has some sensitive business data in it (theirs!) and this gives you another chance to get some face time to ask them about their business, get them to show you round. Think about building that relationship not selling them your services.

    If you did that 2/3 times a month you'll have a nice portfolio of clients in no time. Then just focus on keeping the better ones!


    Chin up fella, always seems at it's worse just before it gets better.
     
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  14. sqhunter

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    @ Hisnibbs

    Thats a helluva guide there dude ! Great strategies for someone to persuade local biz into seo :D

    Jesdon, even you may not going into seo, do read also all the other ideas everywhere on BHW, there are similar blueprints on other money making methods
     
  15. Hisnibbs

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    sqhunter, I just saw someone in a bind (I've been there so know that rising panicky feeling) and thought a solid real world strategy can sometimes just feel like you are actually doing something concrete and solid to morve you forward. All the IM can sometimes feel intangible.
     
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    having to post this in bits as the moderation sysytem keeps telling me I am spamming.

    Sorry about the spelling mistakes I literally typed that up as fast as I could then fell asleep. I might expand it and do a free become a trusted advisor report, with a few other strategies I use.
     
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    Sometimes it's all about being in the right headspace, putting the client into a similar headspace and they then s3ll themselves. You can even do the no expert s3ll. Tell them you know nothing but have a tame techy who does all you do is the fact find and know what questions to ask but the tech guys know all the answers.
     
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    Get the s4les, come home, Google all the answers and then send them the report and get a meeting to discuss options and cost of implementation. Then e lance the project when you get the s4le and tell the customer there's a 8 to 9 day lead time in your production schedule, that gives you time to find an expert to work with.
     
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    Bottom line, long as the work gets done, commercial customers care not who did it as long as confidentiality is paramount you'll be fine. You then become their go-to guy or gal for all things in that sphere, I recently had a client pay me very well for liaising between them and a web design company over a 10 week period, roughly 25 emails to discuss building them a new site, brokered the deal and then got 10 per cent of the fee p4id from the design co. for supplying them with a large design job. All of this process started with one of my marketing emails. So it can be done.
     
  20. Hisnibbs

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    Thing is, be an effective s4lesperson and you can sell anything, think of your job to be a matchmaker, mating demand with supply and taking a chunk of the action for the contacts. I gotta lots of techniques that I've used, not to boast but I've generated leads via websites, taken calls about the product, made the s4le on the first call from the customer for services totalling thousands. It's all about the pre-sell, the proposition and getting the client in a buying frame before they call so that they are worried you might not be able to help them so when you do they pretty much commit on the spot. Heck now I know I'm gonna do a report, there's loads of "techniques" I use that could help the offline guys here. I said the other day I was a newb on here but following my logic through with Jesdon then I guess we're all experts at something!

    Anyway, coffee to drink papers to read, next week to plan.

    jesdon if you need anything more about real world marketing then get in touch PM me and I'll give you a hand if I can.